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11 minutes ago, EllenEveBaz said:
I had a hound with three toes on one front foot (missing one was a middle toe) and three toes on one back foot (also a middle toe). Not the same as Tony, but she never seemed to have problems. I never knew why the toes were amputated. What is poor Tony's toe issue?
Well he had a corn on the other toe that didn’t respond to the tendon surgery. And then I guess there was a fracture that couldn’t be fixed so they amputated. This time it’s a corn again that also didn’t respond to repeated tendon surgeries. So I’m thinking I’ll just amputate since it basically solved the problem last time.
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My greyhound Tony has three toes on his left front door because we had to have a weight bearing toe amputated. Now I have to do the same thing on his other front foot with another weight bearing toe. Has anyone had a dog that had only three toes on each of their front paws? Were they able to get around ok after healing or did it cause problems walking?
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I need some advice… I adopted my dog Tony about 5 years ago. Ever since I got him he’s had medical issues with his feet. Corns, limping, a toe infection, now some unexplained limping again. We go to the vet like 10 times a year. He’s had 4 surgeries on his feet and there are just problems after problems. He’ll get better for a couple of months and then something else happens. I had a thought of rehoming him today because I can’t afford all the constant medical treatment, but I could never do that. I’ll just be broke I guess. Has anyone else ever gone through this? What do I do?! I’m so overwhelmed. I don’t want any more pets after this.
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5 hours ago, greysmom said:
Gabapentin is the new multipurpose "it" drug for canine medicine, even though it's been around as a human drug for a long time. But it doesn't work for everything or even for every dog. I'm also surprised your vet went right to this drug without trying more normal meds like an nsaid - or even an nsaid in combination with the gaba.
Also, the FT surgery only takes care of the toe that the ligament was cut on. The other toes could have corn(s) forming that haven't erupted to the surface yet.
I would also ask my vet to really examine his neck and spine for soft tissue injuries, which can be hard to locate and really difficult to heal. Did the xrays go high enough for a view of his neck/spine?? If you have access to a certified canine acupuncture practitioner, I would definitely give that a try.
They took x rays of his cervical spine too. They were normal. This was with the orthopedic surgeon and he did a full exam. He had me giving Tony carprofen first but it didn’t do anything. He thinks it’s the scar tissue. But his limping just got so bad so fast so I’m not sure.
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2 hours ago, BatterseaBrindl said:
The limp may be caused by pain that is not in his foot. Could be higher up in his shoulder or even his neck.
I’d take him in for a complete lameness exam with a set of X-rays.
He did have x-rays all the way up to his shoulder and nothing was found.
1 hour ago, FiveRoooooers said:Agree with Nancy above. This may be in his shoulder and perhaps some acupuncture and/or chiro can help, but your pup first needs to have a very thorough exam. Has his opposite front foot also been thoroughly examined? Good luck, and please keep us posted.
He was thoroughly examined and had x-rays up to his shoulder and it was all normal. The surgeon did mention his neck but didn’t think that was the cause. he hasn’t done anything strenuous to cause an injury.
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My dog Tony had a corn on his front right toe so I got him the tendon surgery.. where they cut the tendon to the toe to relieve pressure on it. I had it done by a board certified orthopedic surgeon who has done them before. Two months later he started limping again on that foot. I noticed quite a bit of scar tissue had formed over the incision site. The limping started off as a small limp and within a month he won’t put weight on the foot. I took him back to the surgeon and they did x-rays which were normal. Anywhere we press on the foot or leg, he doesn’t react as if it’s painful. They started him on gabapentin and gave him a steroid shot in the scar tissue. It’s been a few days and he hasn’t gotten better. Has anyone else experienced this? I don’t know what’s wrong and I think the doctor doesn’t for sure know either.
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44 minutes ago, FiveRoooooers said:
Tony should do just fine without that toe. Just be sure the docs take it high enough that the remaining stump doesn't touch the ground as that would be very painful. My senior Aiden does well despite missing a lateral toe from one front foot and a middle digit from the other, there are some threads here and elsewhere in H&M about his issues. Good luck and please keep us posted!
Yeah the dr said he would take the entire thing for that reason. Does your dog limp at all?
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Hello all.. so my greyhound, Tony, has had a corn on one of his middle toes on the front paw. We went ahead and did the tendon surgery and he was good for a couple of months, but started limping again. I managed to remove the corn the other day, but he’s still limping and now has some kind of hard pink area on the side of the paw pad. I’ve seen two surgeons and both have said to just amputate the toe. Do dogs do ok with a middle digit amputation on the front leg? The dr said he might have a slight limp from it but it wouldn’t be from pain, just because it was a weight bearing toe. I just want him to go back to normal. I’m tired of him being in pain because of this toe.
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18 minutes ago, JohnF said:
It has to be real duct tape, thicker and with much better glue than what they sell in the cheap stores. Either "Gorilla Tape" or "Duck Tape Max Strength". You put just a square piece big enough to cover the corn area, then change it for a new one at night. It might take a month.
I got 3M brand, it was $8 so definitely not cheap. I saw the gorilla tape there but thought duct tape would suffice. I guess I’ll have to get the other one.
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7 hours ago, Houndtime said:
Even my vet said, last time we were there, I can remove the corn for you, but it is just going to come back. I told him I use duck tape and he was surprised that it works.
How do you use duct tape though? I just tried it and it doesn’t even stick.
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52 minutes ago, greysmom said:
If you're on Facebook, join the "Greyhounds with Corns" group. Lots of knowledge and support make it worth joining FB even if you're not on it yet.
What a vet means when they say "surgical removal" is basically just a really really deep hulling under anesthesia. THIS IS TOTALLY UNNECESSARY!! Mostly because they just come back no matter how deep you go. There is a surgery that many people have had success with in getting completely rid of their corns called a "Flexor Tenotomy." This involves snipping the tendon that controls the toe and creating what trainers call a "sprung toe" on the dog. Releasing the tension on the tendon seems to heal the root cause of the corn, for what ever reason. If you join the above group, you will immediately be advised to do this on your dog. IMO, there are still too many questions about this recently developed technique to be doing it willy nilly and bunches of dogs, but it does seem to work, so it's up to each individual to decide if this surgery is worth it for them and their dog.
So, yes, you can definitely hull your own dogs corns at home. Soak the foot in epsom salts and warm-to-hotish water (or wrap a wet cloth around his foot and cover) for about 10 minutes. After soaking, check the pad to see if the edges of the corn are pulled away from the pad and try and get a chunk out with your dental tool. If the corn isn't on the surface or able to be hulled yet, you may need to moisturize and try again the next day.
Without seeing it, it's hard to say if your dealing with a corn or with a foreign body. The fact that he had an infection leads me to believe he *may* still have something in his pad which *will* need to be surgically explored and removed. Many times it's a piece of wood or glass that doesn't show up on xrays, so exploratory surgery is the only way. This is something to discuss with your vet.
Corns suck. There's just no way around it. Good luck.
I’ve been in contact with Dr. Couto and he confirmed there is a corn. If I have to do surgery later on then fine, but I can’t afford it right now after all the money I just spent trying to clear this infection. I did join that Facebook group and for some good info. I tried duct tape just now and it doesn’t stick AT ALL. So not sure what was wrong there.
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3 minutes ago, Hubcitypam said:
Having lived with a dog with corns on all four feet I will tell you do NOT do surgery. It costs an arm and a leg and they come right back. The only thing that fixed Rex O'Million was duct tape. Google it. It has to be name brand not dollar store variety.
Yeah I wasn’t going to do surgery. And now I just noticed another one on his other paw, but that is kind of on the side so I don’t think it’s been bothering him. I bought one of those dental tools to try and hull it myself. I also bought some duct tape, but haven’t tried it yet. How long did you leave the tape on?
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My dog has his first corn, along with an infection in that same toe that he’s been battling for weeks. He’s still limping and I really think it’s the corn. I’ve read several treatments for corns and I called one vet and got quoted $750 for removal and anesthesia. Is this a process that requires them to be asleep? I saw videos of corn hulling and the dog was awake. Does it hurt the dog? I really don’t want to do any type of surgery. I ordered some bag balm and a therapaw boot for the meantime. It’s not yet sticking out of his paw pad, the area kind of dips in. Are there any of ways to remove the corn that isn’t going to cost me almost $1000? I’ve already spent $3,000 treating whatever infection it was he had. Even if it’s like something I need to do daily I’m fine with that until I can afford a surgery if that’s the only option. How much does corn hulling usually cost? $750 sounds like a lot.
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26 minutes ago, cleptogrey said:
forgot to mention Alabama Rot- one of the dogs in our group had it- this looks familiar. it is caused by e coli. look it up and do mention it to your vet. it was a stressful recovery- but she did recover.
Lepto Vaccine only protects against certain strains. the reason i mentioned Lepto is the spleen inflammation. - and you mentioned that he goes into the lake- right? has your vet done a scraping and culture?
Alabama rot was mentioned, but I think by now it’s been disregarded. I really don’t think any actual testing has been done on anything specific. The only testing they did was fluid from the toe and it came back as bacteria, but didn’t say what kind. I will ask about lepto next time I speak with the doctor. We hadn’t been to the dog park in a few weeks before this happened, but he was at daycare that week.
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I don’t really know if anything specific has been tested for. Just for a bacteria, which is what the doctor thinks it is. Just a bad infection. I did consult with Dr. Couto over email today and he mentioned that Tony has a corn, but doesn’t seem to think that’s the whole problem because of the fever and infection he had. I saw the vet today and he prescribed another round of Baytril antibiotics and if that doesn’t work then they will have to take the toe. But I’m still waiting on Dr. Couto to tell me what he thinks.. he’s not done looking at all the information I sent over.
As far as lepto.. Tony has been vaccinated for that one. We go to this dog park and he likes to get in the dog lake so I made sure he’s been vaccinated for that. And yes there are a lot of stray cats in my neighborhood. We live in northeast Florida. -
7 minutes ago, Time4ANap said:
If you still aren't getting answers from the vet or they are really puzzled, I would suggest a consultation with Dr. Cuoto. Dr. Cuoto ran the Greyhound Program at Ohio State Vet School for many years and is now in private practice. He will review labs, xrays, etc via email and work with you and your vet. There is a fee for his consultation but many of us have found it to be money well spent when encountering an issue with our hounds. he responds to email within a day if he traveling and usually faster if he is in
https://www.coutovetconsultants.com
Thank you. I have heard of this doctor. I came across a website that had his name and have thought about emailing, but I wasn’t sure if he was still in practice.
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12 minutes ago, greysmom said:
Did the vet take xrays of the foot??? How about up the leg?
It sounds like he might have a foreign body in his toe/foot someplace. One - like a foxtail or splinter - that wouldn't show up on xrays, but which might need to be surfically removed. **Really** examin his foot and toes well - in between the toes, in the "well" in the bottom, all around the nailbeds - for a spot that looks like a wound or entry point.
You should also be soaking his foot a couple times daily in very warm water and epsom salts. This will help draw out any FBs and help with any infection. Make up the solution of a cup of very warm water and 1 tablespoon of epsom salts. Soak a washcloth (or similar sized cloth) thoroughly in this solution. wrap it around his foot when he's comfortably laying down. Put a plastic bag over the cloth wrapped foot and secure with vet wrap or other just enough to keep the water inside. Keep on for 10 minutes or so at a time.
These kinds of issues are very tricky, so good luck and keep us posted!
Yes, he had x-rays done twice at two different vets and they didn’t see anything. The bones looked normal too, which I was worried it was cancer. What’s strange is that the swelling spread to his other limbs, so that makes me think it’s something systemic because If something was just stuck in his toe wouldn’t that be the only foot affected? I’ve looked at it all over and can’t see anything there. It must have been some kind of infection because the antibiotics did help.. but it’s not completely cured because he still can’t walk on it. So just trying to find out what causes the infection and why it’s not completely healed.
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3 minutes ago, macoduck said:
How old is he? Is there any chance this cold have been a spider bite(s)? Any fluid oozing from anywhere on the paw or leg?
If you are on Facebook you can host your photos there. Open your photo, right click for "copy image location", return here and paste.He is 7. No there’s no fluid or anything that looks like he was bitten. Just red skin. I added the pics to google drive. See if this works. Facebook wouldn’t let me copy image location. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QVJtXIGwBDtgnRfUrl3BX-x29pYKBudV/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hQ1Qlqmw5x8ZsyRE73o9bjNoXdIBhBFl/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jovWGHUixZgugvOOz8LvVHvyeZGOyRHN/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JeYHTWdq0HwhSQCx39Ygl-_r4oLBWKMQ/view?usp=drivesdkhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1GaERYYo2RYj6CcjqwyZ3VYGgfJvrHi6A/view?usp=drivesdk
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My dog, Tony, has been suffering from lameness for over three weeks now in his front left paw. It all started with a slight limp that turned into a high fever, all in the span of one afternoon. Bloodwork and X-rays came back normal. Ultrasound revealed an enlarged spleen. Infection of his toe is what was suspected, as his toe was swelling up at this point. He was put on antibiotics (clavamos) and steroids (prednisone). By day 3, his entire foot was swollen and by day 4, his back foot started to swell and he had red skin on his front right leg. I took him back to the vet and they changed antibiotics and also gave him medicine for vasculitis. He was very lethargic and did not want to walk at all. In a lot of pain. Two days after the new antibiotics the swelling was almost all gone and the other limbs looked normal again. (Baytril and Doxycycline). I think they took some fluid from the toe and it came back as an infection, but I am still unclear of the results. He has another appointment tomorrow because he has finished all medications and is still limping and holding paw up to walk. Swelling is down, but toe looks raised compared to other toes and is red between the toes. Has anyone heard of anything like this?? The vet called it a “challenging case.” I tried to attach pictures, but is says the file size is too large. Added google drive pics if that works. The picture of the leg that’s all red and swollen foot is what it looked like 2 weeks ago. The other pictures are from today.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QVJtXIGwBDtgnRfUrl3BX-x29pYKBudV/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hQ1Qlqmw5x8ZsyRE73o9bjNoXdIBhBFl/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jovWGHUixZgugvOOz8LvVHvyeZGOyRHN/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JeYHTWdq0HwhSQCx39Ygl-_r4oLBWKMQ/view?usp=drivesdkhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1GaERYYo2RYj6CcjqwyZ3VYGgfJvrHi6A/view?usp=drivesdk
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Good to know! Thank you, I feel better about it now!