CeeEs Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Do I need a special harness for a greyhound? I have an 11 month old and the neighborhood dog lunged at her twice. Now she’s afraid of other dogs and she’s like Houdini when it comes to slipping her martingale. I think she picked up on my fear- not of the dog but of her getting loose. I want to have better control the next time we meet another dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerseyGrey Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 We have the Ruffwear Flagline harness which goes over the head and has two clips on either side down the body. It has three points that you can attach a lead to, and a handle on the back for extra control. We love it for our dog. Should you maybe look at tightening the martingale because it shouldn’t be that easy to escape from! An alternative would be a leather fishtail collar which is well suited for the thick neck and tiny head of a sighthound Quote Buddy Molly 🌈 5/11/10-10/10/23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macoduck Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Is the other dog running loose or on leash? Is the owner with it? Until you get a harness, keep her walking beside you rather than letting her roam at the end of her leash. Also try shorter walks without being where she encountered the lunging dog. Might help her regain confidence. And yes, she will feel you tensing up. Picture it like your fear of another incident being telegraphed down that leash. Regarding MerseyGrey's suggestion to check the collar fit: Quote Freshy (Droopys Fresh), NoAh the podenco orito, Howie the portuguese podengo maneto Angels: Rita the podenco maneta, Lila, the podenco, Mr X aka Denali, Lulu the podenco andaluz, Hada the podenco maneta, Georgie Girl (UMR Cordella), Charlie the iggy, Mazy (CBR Crazy Girl), Potato, my mystery ibizan girl, Allen (M's Pretty Boy), Percy (Fast But True), Mikey (Doray's Patuti), Pudge le mutt, Tessa the iggy, Possum (Apostle), Gracie (Dusty Lady), Harold (Slatex Harold), "Cousin" Simon our step-iggy, Little Dude the iggy ,Bandit (Bb Blue Jay), Niña the galgo, Wally (Allen Hogg), Thane (Pog Mo Thoine), Oliver (JJ Special Agent), Comet, & Rosie our original mutt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleptogrey Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 your pup is an adolescent, which can be quite the challenge. you don't need a harness! stick with a properly fitting martingale. since your dog is young take a look at the 3/4" Lupine Martingale collars. That is my go-to for greyhounds, especially young or smaller GHs. they are guaranteed for life, even if chewed! the thinner the collar the more control you have. i have also started to used a limited slip collar but the martingale is still the safest if adjusted properly and worn high on the neck. and if you can't sign up for training classes, then do some research on Youtube. there are many excellent videos out there. daniel oliver is an excellent trainer who will work with you via video. i recommended him to a friend when she got her 6 month old gh pup. i could give my friends pointers but she really needed a program to stick with and consistent video chats/demos on both her part and the trainers. even though she has had numerous GH in the past a puppy, especially a sighthound puppy is challenging. she has had total success using daniel and i have referred other people who were very very pleased w/ his innate wisdom and experience. https://www.oliverdogtraining.com/about-us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyRunDog Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 It's personal preference but a properly fitting collar should be all you need. I use a fishtail collar and despite the best efforts of Grace when I first got her (she was frightened by kids playing football in the park) she never slipped it. Quote Grace (Ardera Coleen) b. 18 June 2014 - Gotcha Day 10 June 2018 - Going grey gracefullyGuinness (Antigua Rum) b. 3 September 2017 - Gotcha Day 18 March 2022 - A gentleman most of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeEs Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) Just looking at the graphic I see her collar is too loose. My other two were soooo chill. Didn’t even worry about them slipping the lead. I may try a thinner martingale or the fishtail. My confidence is high when going next to “scary” things. Just not when she’s slipping the lead. I need to get a handle on this. The closing garage door freaked her out tonight. I don’t want her her learning to fear random things. And thanks for the great advice! Edited July 18, 2022 by CeeEs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeEs Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 7/16/2022 at 5:27 AM, macoduck said: Is the other dog running loose or on leash? Is the owner with it? The first time it was on a leash. Second time the owner just had it loose in the yard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenniferS Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 My favorite is the Freedom No-Pull Harness from 2Hounds Design. They were originally made to fit a greyhound, have a martingale tightening feature, and soft velvet under the arms. I also attach a coupler from the harness to my dog's martingale collar for added security should he slip out of one. Quote Forever in my heart: my girl Raspberry & my boys Quiet Man, Murphy, Ducky, Wylie & Theo www.greyhoundadventures.org & www.greyhoundamberalert.org & www.duckypaws.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleptogrey Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) the fishtale collars are lovely. i have a few from spain and rarely use them. contact me privately since i might just sell one if you are interested and i have 2 thinner martingales that are not working for my whippets(will sell those cheap). but honestly the thinner martingale will serve your needs. i do have a fishtale that is a choke collar. difficult to find, one collar maker here in the states makes them and only sells them at specialty shows bolduc leather. similar to it is the limited choke collar just fishtale shape. i have a limited choke from E-ZY dog(a work horse of a collar- one of my whippets has super high prey drive and is stronger than a GH) and everyday limited choke collars from fuzzywumpets. https://www.amazon.com/EzyDog-Checkmate-Martingale-Style-Training-Correction/dp/B01GH44MLK/ref=sr_1_20?crid=1F2G51RISGE99&dchild=1&keywords=limited%2Bslip%2Bcollar%2Bfor%2Bdogs&qid=1627691875&sprefix=limited%2Bslip%2Bcollar%2Caps%2C166&sr=8-20&th=1 i only use this for walking, works well, but not to be left on. https://www.fuzzywumpets.com/collections/limited-slip-collars/style_everyday-collar+width_1-wide#collection or their walkers with leash permanently attached are EXCELLENT!!!! they wear well and are soft on the neck. another option, once your dog stops growing is this https://www.hoganleather.com/store/martingales/padded-limited-choke-collar/ how old and how big is your dog now? Edited July 18, 2022 by cleptogrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time4ANap Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 4 hours ago, JenniferS said: My favorite is the Freedom No-Pull Harness from 2Hounds Design. They were originally made to fit a greyhound, have a martingale tightening feature, and soft velvet under the arms. I also attach a coupler from the harness to my dog's martingale collar for added security should he slip out of one. Will secod this harness if you decide that you need one. Petunia would often statue on walks and we switched to a harness for better control and to avoid any potential injury that might occur when she got stubborn with a martingale on. The 2Hounds harness was awesome and I could control her whole body as a unit instead of only having control at her neck. Quote Camp Broodie. The current home of Mark Kay Mark Jack and Gracie Kiowa Safe Joan. Always missing my boy Rocket Hi Noon Rocket, Allie Phoenix Dynamite, Kate Miss Kate, Starz Under Da Starz, Petunia MW Neptunia, Diva Astar Dashindiva, and LaVida I've Got Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiveRoooooers Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 9 hours ago, JenniferS said: My favorite is the Freedom No-Pull Harness from 2Hounds Design. They were originally made to fit a greyhound, have a martingale tightening feature, and soft velvet under the arms. I also attach a coupler from the harness to my dog's martingale collar for added security should he slip out of one. 4 hours ago, Time4ANap said: Will secod this harness if you decide that you need one. Petunia would often statue on walks and we switched to a harness for better control and to avoid any potential injury that might occur when she got stubborn with a martingale on. The 2Hounds harness was awesome and I could control her whole body as a unit instead of only having control at her neck. Third vote for this harness. Quote Old Dogs are the Best Dogs. Thank you, campers. Current enrollees: Punkin. AnnIE Oooh M, Ebbie, HollyBeeBop (Betty Crocker). Angels: Pal . Segugio. Sorella (TPGIT). LadyBug. Zeke-aroni. MiMi Sizzle Pants. Gracie. Seamie . (Foster)Sweet. Andy. PaddyALVIN!Mayhem. Bosco. Bruno. Dottie B. Trevor Double-Heart. Bea. Cletus, KLTO. Aiden 1-4. Upon reflection, our lives are often referenced in parts defined by the all-too-short lives of our dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleptogrey Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 do i have the only dog who went totally naked from the velvet? and the other dog slipped it- yup, on tight and a porta-john truck came barreling down the aisle we were set up at in Brimfield Antique Show. Annie took off full steam ahead thru all the vendor's tents and aisles to rt 20. she was found in a yard 4+ miles away. thank dog she made a left turn into a residential neighborhood vs. straight to rt90. and even with 50 years of canine ownership i still can't manage 2 leads on one dog and another dog at the same time and have full control. hence my feelings about harnesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time4ANap Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 3 hours ago, cleptogrey said: do i have the only dog who went totally naked from the velvet? and the other dog slipped it- yup, on tight and a porta-john truck came barreling down the aisle we were set up at in Brimfield Antique Show. Annie took off full steam ahead thru all the vendor's tents and aisles to rt 20. she was found in a yard 4+ miles away. thank dog she made a left turn into a residential neighborhood vs. straight to rt90. and even with 50 years of canine ownership i still can't manage 2 leads on one dog and another dog at the same time and have full control. hence my feelings about harnesses. I didn't like using 2 leads on the harness but it was capable of doing so if you needed that kind of control. We tried that and found that we didn't need it. That 2 Hounds harness also has a center attachment point that lets you use only one lead instead of 2 if you choose. That was all we needed. I don't recall any velvet on it either. I'm pretty sure it was a soft nylon webbing on both sides. Quote Camp Broodie. The current home of Mark Kay Mark Jack and Gracie Kiowa Safe Joan. Always missing my boy Rocket Hi Noon Rocket, Allie Phoenix Dynamite, Kate Miss Kate, Starz Under Da Starz, Petunia MW Neptunia, Diva Astar Dashindiva, and LaVida I've Got Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queenwinniesmom Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 If you do decide to go with a harness, we've always used the ones from Houndstown. Our 3 Galgo girls from Scooby came with the spook harnesses from Houndstown. The have an extra strap which makes them really secure for a scared dog who might balk, which they all did when they first came home. I've felt really confident with these, and they still use them, even though they probably don't need them at this point. It's just that if Kiva especially, got away, I'd never get her back! Quote Nancy, Mom to Evangelina and Kiva Missing Lacey, Patsy, Buster, my heart dog Nick, Winnie, Pollyanna, Tess, my precious Lydia, Calvin Lee, my angel butterfly Laila, and kitties Lily, Sam and Simon My Etsy shop: http://www.etsy.com/shop/Catsburgandhoundtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiveRoooooers Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 12 hours ago, Time4ANap said: I didn't like using 2 leads on the harness but it was capable of doing so if you needed that kind of control. We tried that and found that we didn't need it. That 2 Hounds harness also has a center attachment point that lets you use only one lead instead of 2 if you choose. That was all we needed. I don't recall any velvet on it either. I'm pretty sure it was a soft nylon webbing on both sides. I just checked our 2Hounds harnesses and they do have the velvet strap that goes under the belly and attaches behind the elbow. None of my many campers were ever bothered by it Quote Old Dogs are the Best Dogs. Thank you, campers. Current enrollees: Punkin. AnnIE Oooh M, Ebbie, HollyBeeBop (Betty Crocker). Angels: Pal . Segugio. Sorella (TPGIT). LadyBug. Zeke-aroni. MiMi Sizzle Pants. Gracie. Seamie . (Foster)Sweet. Andy. PaddyALVIN!Mayhem. Bosco. Bruno. Dottie B. Trevor Double-Heart. Bea. Cletus, KLTO. Aiden 1-4. Upon reflection, our lives are often referenced in parts defined by the all-too-short lives of our dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time4ANap Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 55 minutes ago, FiveRoooooers said: I just checked our 2Hounds harnesses and they do have the velvet strap that goes under the belly and attaches behind the elbow. None of my many campers were ever bothered by it I must have never noticed the velvet if ours had it, so I guess Petunia wasn't bothered by it. Her harness is here somewhere, but we haven't needed it for LaVida, so I will check it out the next time I see it. Thanks. Quote Camp Broodie. The current home of Mark Kay Mark Jack and Gracie Kiowa Safe Joan. Always missing my boy Rocket Hi Noon Rocket, Allie Phoenix Dynamite, Kate Miss Kate, Starz Under Da Starz, Petunia MW Neptunia, Diva Astar Dashindiva, and LaVida I've Got Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remolacha Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 A little late to the discussion, but I will just add my A loose martingale is next to useless in controlling a frightened/aggressive/over-active dog, so be sure yours is fitted correctly. I personally found a harness a much better option for my leash reactive 90lb greyhound. I could hold him next to me (which helped calm him) and not worry about him injuring his neck when he leapt around like a fish on the end of the line I have the 2Hounds harness mentioned above and it worked great. Actually, I had two, but gave one away. They do have velvet, I think so they don’t rub on that fragile greyhound skin. They are somewhat adjustable, but at 11 months your girl will probably grow a bit more. If you call 2Hounds they are very helpful with choosing the size you would need. I have never needed the double leads, pretty sure I am not coordinated enough to manage but I know some people who have. All that said, it sounds like a properly fitted martingale might be all you need for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenniferS Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 On 7/18/2022 at 5:54 PM, cleptogrey said: do i have the only dog who went totally naked from the velvet? and the other dog slipped it- yup, on tight and a porta-john truck came barreling down the aisle we were set up at in Brimfield Antique Show. Annie took off full steam ahead thru all the vendor's tents and aisles to rt 20. she was found in a yard 4+ miles away. thank dog she made a left turn into a residential neighborhood vs. straight to rt90. and even with 50 years of canine ownership i still can't manage 2 leads on one dog and another dog at the same time and have full control. hence my feelings about harnesses. Regarding the velvet, my most recent greyhound seemed to have sensitivity to a velvet tag collar, but that was on 24/7. I've never had one have sensitivity to it on the harness because they don't wear it for that long. And you don't need two leashes - there are many alternatives to attaching a harness and martingale using one leash. 2Hounds sells one that has two attachments with one handle, but it is too short for my liking. Houndstown makes an excellent one with two attachments and one handle. I use a coupler to attach them and then use my regular leash. I wish I could post a picture but GT won't allow me to Quote Forever in my heart: my girl Raspberry & my boys Quiet Man, Murphy, Ducky, Wylie & Theo www.greyhoundadventures.org & www.greyhoundamberalert.org & www.duckypaws.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramonaghan Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Just chiming in to say in 9 years with Sweep and a velvet tag collar and the 2Hounds harness, no issues with velvet irritating her skin. So far, so good with Doolin and his velvet tag collar and martingale (but we're only 3 weeks in). Every dog is different though! Quote Rachel with Doolin Doodle Dooooo, boss cat Tootie, and feline squatters Crumpet and Fezziwig. Missing gentlemen kitties Mud, Henry, and Richard and our gorgeous, gutsy girlhounds Sweep and Willa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeEs Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share Posted July 20, 2022 I’m going with a harness. She just reacted to a lone person walking the block. That isn’t what I want for her so for my piece of mind I am just getting one. My confidence will be better if I have control. I have been looking at the 2hounds. She’s been wearing the velvet house collar so I don’t anticipate it rubbing. Great advice here. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleptogrey Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, CeeEs said: I’m going with a harness. She just reacted to a lone person walking the block. That isn’t what I want for her so for my piece of mind I am just getting one. My confidence will be better if I have control. I have been looking at the 2hounds. She’s been wearing the velvet house collar so I don’t anticipate it rubbing. Great advice here. 🙂 do contact daniel oliver, his link is my initial post. he is excellent and all will be done on-line. nip this in the butt as they would say, you don't want a reactive dog, especially to people! don't wait!!! i have referred other dog owners to him and they all have been very pleased, use my name- andrea w/ lettuce & mango. Edited July 21, 2022 by cleptogrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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