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I took my little Macau girl Cee Cee to a specialist to see just how bad her kidneys are. The ultrasound vet said they were so bad looking that he thought they were birth defects.

The internist said no. Not birth defects. Either babesia or insult such as food. (She came from China). Babesia just came back negative. Anyway, we won't be able to get a prognosis until we have several point plots of her bloodwork. He started CC on a new med to help with the protein loss in addition to her BP med. So he took a baseline bloodwork. But we already had several kidney panels done in the 4 months I've had her. So he could compare her values from the beginning.

Anyway. The reason for this post is that her blood albumin has constantly improved. Due to her diet. She is still in renal failure but we're stressing the kidneys as little as possible.

Here's what I'm doing. Half her food is the Hill's kidney diet kibble. The other half is the homemade recipe I got from here. But what I've changed is I use a dozen eggs for the protein source in the recipe. In place of beef or chicken. She also gets extra eggs for breakfast twice a week. My regular vet and the specialist both said eggs had the best protein for kidney dogs.

Good thing I have my own chickens, eh? :D

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sounds good to me! i kept felix going for a really long time on congee and chicken. very little chicken, but he also had pancreatitis. my chiropractor who feeds partially raw kept her kidney girl going on raw green tripe. mmmm.....delish so i've been told by those who have 4 legs! best of luck- do check out the web site called IRIS. just type in IRIS kidney and it should come up. 

have fun cooking!

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Your homemade recipe probably includes instructions for this, but just in case, as eggs are high in phosphorus, the recipe should include something to act as a binder.  I used to wash, bake and grind eggshells.  There is a ratio that should be maintained, I don't remember what it is, it's been years, but it should be pretty easy to find online. 

Glad your girl is improving!

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1 hour ago, MP_the4pack said:

I took my little Macau girl Cee Cee to a specialist to see just how bad her kidneys are. The ultrasound vet said they were so bad looking that he thought they were birth defects.

The internist said no. Not birth defects. Either babesia or insult such as food. (She came from China). Babesia just came back negative. Anyway, we won't be able to get a prognosis until we have several point plots of her bloodwork. He started CC on a new med to help with the protein loss in addition to her BP med. So he took a baseline bloodwork. But we already had several kidney panels done in the 4 months I've had her. So he could compare her values from the beginning.

Anyway. The reason for this post is that her blood albumin has constantly improved. Due to her diet. She is still in renal failure but we're stressing the kidneys as little as possible.

Here's what I'm doing. Half her food is the Hill's kidney diet kibble. The other half is the homemade recipe I got from here. But what I've changed is I use a dozen eggs for the protein source in the recipe. In place of beef or chicken. She also gets extra eggs for breakfast twice a week. My regular vet and the specialist both said eggs had the best protein for kidney dogs.

Good thing I have my own chickens, eh? :D

Good to know! Do you cook the eggs, or serve them raw?

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 her blood albumin has constantly improved.

Way to go, Team Cee Cee!  


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3 hours ago, Remolacha said:

Good to know! Do you cook the eggs, or serve them raw?

Cooked. Too scary with all the press about salmonella from backyard chickens.

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2 hours ago, MP_the4pack said:

Cooked. Too scary with all the press about salmonella from backyard chickens.

Thanks!

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On 7/28/2019 at 1:51 PM, Rickiesmom said:

Your homemade recipe probably includes instructions for this, but just in case, as eggs are high in phosphorus, the recipe should include something to act as a binder.  I used to wash, bake and grind eggshells.  There is a ratio that should be maintained, I don't remember what it is, it's been years, but it should be pretty easy to find online. 

Glad your girl is improving!

We had a checkup today. I asked the vet about the eggshells. It's fine if the calcium and phospherous bind in the intestines. But if it's absorbed first then binds in the blood it will do more damage to the kidneys. They do monitor the phospherous with the regular kidney panels we do. Right now her values except creatinine are excellent. So we'll keep the calcium out for now.

I am going to squeeze every minute of quality time I can from those kidneys. Need to make up for those 5 horrid years in hell.

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That is really interesting, as I bet a lot of the older dog-related recipes and diet recommendations use calcium as a binder. 

I looked around and found this article.  It doesn't recommend a specific binder, but does explain the relationship of phosphorus and calcium in the body:

https://veterinarypartner.vin.com/default.aspx?pid=19239&id=4952674

Elsewhere there are articles talking about currently recommended binders, but it sounds like you don't need any of that at the moment, which is wonderful!

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