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Hi All,

A couple days ago I notice a pink polyp/bump/tumor/something in my 11yo female's nose. It is just inside her right nostril. It doesn't seem to bother her or be painful. No problems breathing. No coughing or sneezing. No nasal discharge or bloody nose. At first i thought maybe she stuck her nose someplace it didn't belong and got a bee/spider/ant type bite. But it hasn't gone away. I plan to take her into the vet next week but thought maybe somebody here might have some insight. Links below to a couple photos. I couldn't figure out how to directly insert from Google Photos.

Thanks,
Gary

 

 

 

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I'm so sorry to read your dog has this. Unless it's Aspergillosis it could be a rare-in-dogs SCC or some other kind of cancerous lesion. I think something like 8 out of 10 of them are cancerous and survival rate is 6-18 months with appropriate treatment. Obviously I hope your dog doesn't have cancer there, but please see your vet as a matter of urgency.

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I'm so sorry to read your dog has this. Unless it's Aspergillosis it could be a rare-in-dogs SCC or some other kind of cancerous lesion. I think something like 8 out of 10 of them are cancerous and survival rate is 6-18 months with appropriate treatment. Obviously I hope your dog doesn't have cancer there, but please see your vet as a matter of urgency.

 

That was far less optimistic than i'd hoped for but I appreciate the honesty. What I was able to google agrees with what you say in that nose/nasal cancer in dogs is rare but with very poor prognosis. What is "SCC"?

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Nasal carcinomas are anything but rare. Your vet may refer you to have a ct performed-really the only way to rule out a nasal tumor other than scoping the nasal passage.

Please keep us posted

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What is "SCC"?

 

Sorry I replied off the top of my head like that, I must remember not to be so direct.

 

SCC is squamous cell carcinoma of epidermal cells.

 

At least you're onto it now, and that at the very least has to be a positive thing.

 

Wishing you, your dog and your vet all the best.

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Well it was indeed Squamous Cell Carcinoma. Had surgery to remove the tumor last week. The vet got all they could and lasered what they couldn't. That one tumor seemed to be it right now. Considering Lizzie's age (11.5) I'm leaning against any radiation or chemo. From what i've read that probably wouldn't significantly increase her time with us anyways. I feel like i'd rather enjoy what ever quality time she has left and not go to drastic measures that also increase her suffering.

I would certainly appreciate any advice y'all could offer.

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GreysInSA, that's still a good update. Please keep us posted on how she is doing.


 

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Thanks for the update and glad your vet caught it as soon as they did. I think you're right, at 11.5, to focus on quality time rather than absolute length of time. Remember, one of our years is supposed to be like 7 to them. Keep us posted, we all could do with knowing how to handle recovery from this kind of thing and it makes such a useful archive resource for anyone else who ever needs to find out about the condition too. How's Lizzie taking it?

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The surgery was last Tuesday. For 3-4 days you could tell she was not feeling well even with pain meds. Eating sporadically and not very active. Over the weekend she seemed to get her groove back. She is eating better and back to her happy, playful, bouncy self. I knew she was feeling better when she roo-ed at the answering machine Friday night. Yup, still have one of those. Its had the same outgoing message for about 15 years when my then 5 year old daughter told people to leave a message. I'm really not sure why but she has always roo-ed when it went off and has taught several other greyhounds to do the same. She and my other greyhound (9yo male Rhone) will sing for a couple minutes after the message goes off.

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I am so sorry and very, very sad for you. I lost my beloved first grey, Indy, to nasal cancer in 2010 (you may be able to search and find some of my old posts on GT). Unlike with Lizzie, Indy's tumor/cancer was not visible - meaning it was further up the nasal cavity. It started with a little blood dripping from one nostril. I asked the vet to scope him during a dental - there were no foreign objects in his nasal cavity and the biopsy came back inconclusive.

 

If I recall he was almost 11 when the dripping started. He did pretty well for approx. one year+. And during that entire time he never missed a meaI! :chow But I said farewell when he was a little over 12. So he hung tough for approx. 1-1/3 yrs?

 

Eventually, I did take him in to see a specialist for a CT scan (very expensive; I probably wouldn't recommend it if the prognosis is knowingly poor). The mass was evident and eventually could have pressed onto his eye(s) or brain. Indy was very stoic; he never cried or whined (of course). In time, he started to appear uncomfortable (as in he preferred to hold his head in a vertical position). I moved up his euthanasia date at least three times. :cry1

 

As many say here, better a day too soon than a day too late. The oncologist, of course, offered palliative care -- but that would have been for my benefit alone. I loved Indy too much to allow him to suffer. Broke my heart.

 

I assume the upside is that you could see Lizzie's tumor. I am hopeful her quality of life is good for a while. By the way, I also decided against any chemo/radiation - it wouldn't have been fair to Indy. But technology has probably evolved over the past nine years (laser, etc.) ... perhaps the veterinary community has more to offer now than they did nine years ago.

 

Thinking of you and your sweet Lizzie. Enjoy each and every day with her as they are so precious and fleeting.

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I thought I should come back and close out this thread.  So they removed all the tumor they could in early March.  A couple weeks later it was back.  A couple weeks after that it had doubled in size.  By the end of May it looked like her nostril had exploded and turned inside out.  In spite of all that, she continued to be her normal happy, bouncy, playful self and ate well with only mild pain meds.  About two weeks ago it was clear she wasn't feeling well so we increased her pain meds.  That didn't really help so we increased them again.  It helped a little and she was eating again.  But the last couple days it was obvious she wasn't doing well.  So today we made the so very tough decision to say goodbye.  This is the third greyhound i've had to send over the bridge.  It keeps getting harder.

Thanks everyone for the advice, encouragement, thoughts, and prayers.

Gary. 

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I am so sorry that Lizzie had to leave you. I will add her name to the list of Bridge Angels on Greytalk. She is in good company.


 

Charlie the iggy, Hada the podenco maneta, Georgie Girl (UMR Cordella)
Angels: Mazy (CBR Crazy Girl), Potato, my mystery ibizan girl, Allen (M's Pretty Boy), Percy (Fast But True), Mikey (Doray's Patuti), Pudge le mutt, Tessa the iggy, Possum (Apostle), Gracie (Dusty Lady), Harold (Slatex Harold), "Cousin" Simon our step-iggy, Little Dude the iggy ,Bandit (Bb Blue Jay), Niña the galgo, Wally (Allen Hogg), Thane (Pog Mo Thoine), Oliver (JJ Special Agent), Comet, & Rosie our original mutt.

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I am so sorry.  You did all you could for her, and it gave you more precious quality time together, though not nearly all you had hoped for. 

Rest in peace sweetheart, you were truly, deeply loved.

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I’m so sorry for your loss. Sometimes we do everything we can to keep them comfortable and it just isn’t enough. Saying good bye is so hard.


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I'm sorry to hear of Lizzie's passing. You did all you could to keep her healthy and happy. 

Rest well Sweet Lizzie and remember how much you were loved.

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