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Seperation Anxiety: How Long Did You Wait Before Trying Medication?

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Yeah I baby gated off the bedroom and he can see out into the main living area. That doesn't seem to please him that much either. He does much better there than in the crate though. I can get about 5 minutes before he barks in there rather than 10 seconds.

 

I can't let him have free roam of the house by himself though. There are way too many harmful things he can get into (muzzle or not) and he is already interested in them. Not to mention I can't really train him without completely leaving and he's still not able to do that without a melt down.

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Please... remove everything that is harmful!

Pretend you have a naughty toddler living with your and 'baby-proof' your house.

You may find that your guy does quite well if he is not contained in a crate or room.

Just give it a try for a few days!


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You might try Prozac if the Zoloft doesn't work. It wasn't a miracle drug (Leo has some SA but mostly what we'd call Generalized Anxiety Disorder in a human as well as wind/storm phobia) but it took it down several notches to the point that with some lifestyle adjustments he's a much happier dog.


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Sounds good.

 

We also started him with a DAP collar on top of the Zoloft. But we still can't leave him alone in another room without him crying and barking. Our behaviorist is baffled and absolutely nothing we have tried with our behaviorist has worked in the slightest. In fact he seems to be getting worse.

 

I'm 3 months in and I still can't leave my apartment.

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Can your partner leave his presence without a reaction?

 

When she leaves the apartment and I'm still here he'll sit in front of the door for awhile and whine but will eventually stop. It's the same for me.

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Does he begin to get anxious before you leave - while you're getting ready? Can you pinpoint the action that starts the sequence? If you can, you can do deconditioning beginning with that. If it's picking up your keys or purse, or putting on outdoor shoes, you can do that action over and over until he gets bored. Then add the next thing in the sequence - put on outdoor shoes then comb your hair (or whatever). Keep adding actions to the sequence until he's bored/uninterested with the whole thing.

 

It can take time and determination to do this. Don't quit his meds while you're deconditioning, even if you decide to change meds.

 

IMO, you vet skipped several routine drugs to try before prescribing the Zoloft. As I said before, nearly all anti anxiety meds are off label uses of human drugs, but there is one specifically for dogs called Clomicalm (clomipramine hydrochloride). Most vets will at least *try* this before heading to other human drugs. Also, many of us have had success with a drug called Trazadone. This one can be used both short- and long-term and seems to be quite safe for most dogs.

 

You can also ask for a referral to a canine neurologist if your vet isn't comfortable discussing further anti aniety treatment with you. Your behaviorist should also be able to guide you as to what to try next.


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That sounds good. You just gave me a good idea, he's very food motivated so the best way to get him bored or uninterested with departures is food. I think we will try setting up a kibble scavenger hunt for him and then leave to see if he is uninterested.

 

I'll pair that up with his kongs too and give that a try!

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Update on progress, we tried the lack of crate and the scavenger hunt idea and.... it's working out!

 

We setup 3 toys before we leave (kong, licky mat, wobbler) and he plays with them and seems to not mind our departure. When he's finished with the toys (and we're gone) he'll roam around a bit and then just lay down (we have a camera to watch him). He made it an hour and a half yesterday and we were actually able to go out and grab dinner and he just chilled in the apartment!

 

More training will be needed but he's making great progress. I have often heard that if they can make it over the 45 minute threshold then they are pretty much set, but I don't want to test too long of alone periods quite yet.

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That's great news!! :clap


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Well done. Great news

 

:yay:yay:yay


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