dante2zoe Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 So, twice since Saturday, Paris has attacked Fancy resulting in stitches and lots and lots of blood. This morning was the second time and, to me, was completely unprovoked. I had to pull Paris off Fancy and we are headed to the vet for more stitches shortly. Paris will also be getting a medical evaluation and then I need a behaviorist. She is now muzzled 24-7 until this gets resolved one way or another. We live outside Gettysburg. Suggestions as to who to contact? Thanks. I am completely freaked out by this, as is Fancy. Cindy Quote Cindy with Miss Fancypants, Paris Bueller, Zeke, and Angus Dante (Dg's Boyd), Zoe (In a While), Brady (Devilish Effect), Goose (BG Shotgun), Maverick (BG ShoMe), Maggie (All Trades Jax), Sherman (LNB Herman Bad) and Indy (BYB whippet) forever in my heart The flame that burns the brightest, burns the fastest and leaves the biggest shadow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeofNE Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Oh dear!!!! No no, bad dog! Cindy, this is alarming and upsetting. Poor Fancy! I hope she is ok. Quote Susan, Hamish, Mister Bigglesworth and Nikita Stanislav. Missing Ming, George, and Buck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighsayer Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 How scary! Hope she is ok, and hope you can keep everyone separated while you figure this out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_the4pack Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I'm sorry but I would give her back. Emma attacked Opal 2 weeks after I got Emma. Four years later she killed Opal. I have never gotten over that. And if I could change things I would never have adopted Emma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 How long have to have them nd how old are they? Is Philly too far for you? Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaFlaca Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 How awful! Best wishes for healing for Fancy. Maybe Paris would be happier with another family as an only-dog. Quote Irene ~ Owned and Operated by Jenny (Jenny Rocks ~ 11/24/17) ~ JRo, Jenny from the Track Lola (AMF Won't Forget ~ 04/29/15 -07/22/19) - My girl. I'll always love you. Wendy (Lost Footing ~ 12/11/05 - 08/18/17) ~ Forever in our hearts. "I am yours, you are mine". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmettobug Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 OMG Cindy, my heart is breaking for you. Hope Fancy (and Maggie!) are OK and you can figure this out. Quote Current Crew: Gino-Gene-Eugene! (Eastnor Rebel: Makeshift x Celtic Dream); Fuzzy the Goo-Goo Girl (BGR Fuzzy Navel: Boc's Blast Off x Superior Peace); Roman the Giant Galoot! (Imark Roman: Crossfire Clyde x Shana Wookie); Kitties Archie and Dixie Forever Missed: K9 Sasha (2001-2015); Johnny (John Reese--Gable Dodge x O'Jays) (2011-19); the kitties Terry and Bibbi; and all the others I've had the privilege to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brindlehound Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Cindy, I sent you a PM with a place suggested by someone on a Facebook group with members in Gettysburg and the immediate area. It's in Adams County. Quote Carol, missing Magic (1/5/01 - 4/15/15) but welcoming Fuzzy's Joy Behar (Joy) into my life on 5/31/15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnF Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I'm sorry this has happened, but that dog HAS to go back and be placed with a family an only dog. A behaviourist will probably only put the aggression on the back burner until next time. It's heart-breakingly sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante2zoe Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 Fancy is 7 and Paris is 4. Had Paris since September. Philly is hours away. We are near Emmitsburg, if that helps. Paris ihas been pretty submissive and Had always deferred to Fancy Quote Cindy with Miss Fancypants, Paris Bueller, Zeke, and Angus Dante (Dg's Boyd), Zoe (In a While), Brady (Devilish Effect), Goose (BG Shotgun), Maverick (BG ShoMe), Maggie (All Trades Jax), Sherman (LNB Herman Bad) and Indy (BYB whippet) forever in my heart The flame that burns the brightest, burns the fastest and leaves the biggest shadow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerilyn Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 http://www.animalbehaviorsociety.org/web/applied-behavior-caab-directory.php I have no experience with any of these people, but there are a couple in MD. I'm so sorry you all are having to deal with this. Quote Jerilyn, missing Lila (Good Looking), new Mistress to Wiki (PJ Wicked). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greysmom Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Oh Cindy! I'm so sorry! What a mess! {{{hugs}}} Quote Chris - Mom to: Felicity (DeLand), and Andi (Braska Pandora) siggy by Chris Harper, on Flickr Angels: Libby (Everlast), Dorie (Dog Gone Holly), Dude (TNJ VooDoo), Copper (Kid's Copper), Cash (GSI Payncash), Toni (LPH Cry Baby), Whiskey (KT's Phys Ed), Atom, Lilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante2zoe Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 I spoke at length with the vet and they examined Paris. She had an anal gland issue and still exhibits some lameness due to a front leg injury that caused her to retire last July. They really believe that her behavior is the result of environmental issues and can be corrected. I appreciate the thoughts and suggestions about her being returned but I would rather work with her instead of dumping her. They will give me some names and suggestions when I go back to pick up Fancy this afternoon. Oh, and the vet commented on how beautiful their teeth were! He had never seen such nice teeth on a greyhound that hadn't been accomplished by a dental, lol. Nice to give some pats instead of just punches. Quote Cindy with Miss Fancypants, Paris Bueller, Zeke, and Angus Dante (Dg's Boyd), Zoe (In a While), Brady (Devilish Effect), Goose (BG Shotgun), Maverick (BG ShoMe), Maggie (All Trades Jax), Sherman (LNB Herman Bad) and Indy (BYB whippet) forever in my heart The flame that burns the brightest, burns the fastest and leaves the biggest shadow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 If there are medical issues I really strongly recommend a vet behaviorist, especially because you may also need pharmaceuticals if the aggression is severe enough. Leslie Sinn is now doing consults at The Life Centre in Leesburg, which is only about an hour from you I think? http://www.behaviorsolutions.guru/ Can't say enough good things about her. Dr. Amy Pike is also in VA and may be a good option. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locket Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Good job on their toofers!Hopefully, you can work it out Cindy Quote Cynthia, with Charlie (Britishlionheart) & Zorro el GalgoCaptain Jack (Check my Spots), my first love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramonaghan Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just wanted to send my best wishes that Fancy quickly recovers physically and mentally and that Paris can overcome this with the help of a behaviorist. So sorry you're dealing with this. I can't imagine how distressing it must be. Quote Rachel with littermates Doolin and Willa, boss cat Tootie, and feline squatters Crumpet and Fezziwig. Missing gentlemen kitties Mud, Henry, and Richard and our beautiful, feisty, silly Sweep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houndtime Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I am so sorry this is happening. You must be walking around on eggs. Maybe you should keep her muzzled. I know some people who took in a difficult dog and that is what they do. Good luck with the behaviorist. We went all the way to U of Penn when we took our John E for evaluation. It was a different type of situation, but we were very pleased with the clinic there. Quote Irene Ullmann w/Flying Odin and Mama Mia in Lower Delaware Angels Brandy, John E, American Idol, Paul, Fuzzy and Shine Handcrafted Greyhound and Custom Clocks http://www.houndtime.com Zoom Doggies-Racing Coats for Racing Greyhounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walliered Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 And Don killed DaVid. For no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walliered Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Mary Pat, that is exactly how I feel. I will never get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevergrey Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) U Pen has an excellent veterinary behavior dept. Sadly Karen Overall is no longer there but you will still get quality help. http://www.vet.upenn.edu/veterinary-hospitals/ryan-veterinary-hospital/services/behaviormedicineIf you are in the Pittsburg area, Debby McMullen is a certified CDBC, her specialty in interdog aggression. She has written a book on multi dog households and behavior modification for dog-dog aggression. She is very good. https://www.pawsitivereactions.com Good luck. Edited June 10, 2017 by forevergrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaFlaca Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 And Don killed DaVid. For no reason. So very sorry...how awful. However, IMHO, there's always a reason, we humans may just never be able to figure it out. Quote Irene ~ Owned and Operated by Jenny (Jenny Rocks ~ 11/24/17) ~ JRo, Jenny from the Track Lola (AMF Won't Forget ~ 04/29/15 -07/22/19) - My girl. I'll always love you. Wendy (Lost Footing ~ 12/11/05 - 08/18/17) ~ Forever in our hearts. "I am yours, you are mine". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaFlaca Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 I appreciate the thoughts and suggestions about her being returned but I would rather work with her instead of dumping her. Please don't think that you are "dumping" your girl. Rehoming her, if it comes to that, would be an act of love both for Paris and Fancy to keep them both safe and happy. I am praying for a good resolution to this dreadful situation. Quote Irene ~ Owned and Operated by Jenny (Jenny Rocks ~ 11/24/17) ~ JRo, Jenny from the Track Lola (AMF Won't Forget ~ 04/29/15 -07/22/19) - My girl. I'll always love you. Wendy (Lost Footing ~ 12/11/05 - 08/18/17) ~ Forever in our hearts. "I am yours, you are mine". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnF Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Please don't think that you are "dumping" your girl. Rehoming her, if it comes to that, would be an act of love both for Paris and Fancy to keep them both safe and happy. I am praying for a good resolution to this dreadful situation. That was why I mentioned it too. The dog may get a wonderful new life with another family as an 'only-dog'. If you've ever had one pet kill another, it's a terrible long-term thing to have try to get over until you can trust dogs to be friendly to each other again. There is no actual blame in trying to rehabilitate, just added danger from thinking you are getting somewhere and relaxing your guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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