NeylasMom Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 Does she have a hooded vulva by chance. Millie has one and she licks it a lot. And was ha ing accidents. She has been tested for uti stones etc and is given a bladder supplement everyday and has not had an accident since.Yes, she does, though it's never been an issue before. In the meantime I've realized she's got an anal gland issue going on so now there's the additional likelihood that she's transferring poop when she kicks and causing more potential for bacteria. So I scheduled an appt for tomorrow and spoke to my vet a bit. We're going to take care of the glands and she said she'd do a culture just to rule out yeast, fungus, weird bacteria, etc. I don't think she thinks it's necessary but at this point I want it to make myself feel better that we're not missing anything. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Ah, anal glands. Daisy understands all about that! Out of curiosity, and not to hijack, but what's a hooded vulva? I'm afraid to google it because no matter how much I specify "DOG" I inevitably get image results I'd rather not see... Quote Mom of bridge babies Regis and Dusty. Wrote a book about shelter dogs! I sell things on Etsy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 Her vulva is recessed. Rather than sort of sticking out, it's recessed, which creates an awesome space for urine and bacteria, etc. to get trapped. It happens in dogs that are spayed before they're sexually mature. Violet actually has one as well and she licks herself more than is normal, but it hasn't thus far created issues for her that I'm aware of at least. The big issue as I understand it is bacteria gets trapped in there and then travels up the urinary tract, which is why dogs that have it often get recurrent UTIs. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Ah, that makes sense. Thanks! Quote Mom of bridge babies Regis and Dusty. Wrote a book about shelter dogs! I sell things on Etsy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Honestly......have the vulvaplasty done. Skip all the cultures etc as I'm sure they will return with a bunch of positives-at this point you are mearly bandaiding the problem. Wipes, powders and ointments will not address the underlying cause-surgery will be curative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 I'm not going to do anything surgical until I'm sure it's necessary. She's 5 years old and this has never been a problem before. It's dragged on at least in part because I've been too distracted with other things and haven't attended to it properly so it's never had a chance to fully heal. So I'm going to do that diligently and see where it gets us. Its already vastly improved again since starting her back on the Apoquel. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feisty49 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Ah, anal glands. Daisy understands all about that! Out of curiosity, and not to hijack, but what's a hooded vulva? I'm afraid to google it because no matter how much I specify "DOG" I inevitably get image results I'd rather not see... I Googled hooded vulva in dogs and got lots of hits. I too didn't know much about it and was curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 If you're really curious, I posted a photo of Skye's in one of our older threads about this: http://forum.greytalk.com/index.php/topic/318472-skyes-vulva-irritation-possible-tumor/?hl=skye Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Poor girlie had very full anal glands and one is infected. My vet ended up swabbing and doing a cytology here and saw bacteria from her vulva, but no yeast. She said some of the bacteria was intracellular, so thinks she likely has a good infection going on there. So ABs that will hopefully address both and we'll continue the Apoquel and topical care as well for now. She said we can culture the vulva bacteria if this AB doesn't address it. She was also pleased with the way it looks, so hopefully this is the beginning of the end of this! ETA: Oh, I asked about the Neo-Predef. She's used it though no longer carries it because of cost, but said it is a steroid so we're going to hold off on that for now. Edited October 18, 2016 by NeylasMom Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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