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What a roller-coaster ride for you and Elvis. So glad he's coming home with less pain.

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That is fantastic news. And yes, Tramadol is definitely known to cause agitation and panting like that in some dogs.

 

If it were me,once you have a moment to get him home and spend some quality time with him, I would think about taking all of his test results and records (ask them to have them ready for you when you go to pick him up), including x-rays and get thee to a specialist at a place you trust more so they can try to figure out what happened in case things change again. SO glad you are getting to take your boy home.

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Wonderful news!

 

And while Tramadol goes over very well here, I also have heard that it can cause agitation in some dogs. So that could certainly have been contributing.

 

Hug that big gorgeous boy for me!

 

Wendy

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Im so glad he's coming home.

 

Tramadol caused awful agitation with Phoenix, and it's very scary because I couldn't tell if it was pain or side effects of the meds.

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Dr. Jenifer called the ER dept when we lived in Grand Rapids MI and told them what regimen Dylan needed. He was screaming when we took him in. They gave him Robaxin, Rimadyl and one other thing I can't remember. We picked him up 12 hours later and came out like nothing happened. Tracy, (tbhounds) you are always there for us when we need you. Thank you....

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We have had mostly good luck with tramadol here, but, it agitated Sutra like nobody's business and the level of weirdness that comes with it is truly unnerving. I remember being awake all night with him panting, pacing, whining. I'd help him lay down and within 20 seconds he was up again. It was as though he'd gone insane. Glad things seem to have turned around for you!

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I don't know if you're comfortable with this, or if Jennifer is, but Meloxicam, Tramadol, and Gabapentine are all human medications and could be called into a local pharmacy if you can't find a local vet to do it.

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Elvis Update!

 

He's doing much better. Thanks for all your thoughtful replies!

 

A lot has happened in the last week with his condition while waiting to see Jenifer Barker DVM yesterday. She examined him, looked at all the notes with his discharge papers (scoffing at much of what they said and did). It doesn't look like cancer, but a bulging cervical disc followed by a small stroke after I got him home last week. She hadn't even seen his xrays and she was able to say this w/confidence. I've started calling her hands a human MRI machine. ha

 

Re: Tramadol, now that I have the chronology of meds and his response in the notes from the hospital, it was the fentanyl making things worse, just as she had said. A crazy cascade of things happened, apparently. In case my experience helps anyone here by preventing them from euthanizing their hound unnecessarily, here's what my non-layman brain can piece together:

 

- Bulging cervical disc + referred pain = right foreleg limp

- Pain worsened before our vet appt., so we went to ER, where he got fentanyl IV + patch

- He got worse rapidly, extreme pain w/panting, whimpering, unable to lie down, things looking grim

- Dr. Barker said it sounded like he was in a full body muscle spasm; rhabdomyelosis--she saw it all the time at the track

- The fentanyl needed to be discontinued immediately and he needed muscle relaxants and steroids

- ER refused due to his prior 1/4/day baby aspirin regimen for stroke prevention, and denial that fentanyl was causing a bad reaction

- Barker and I fought all evening with the ER vets on this. From 8pm until 2am when I finally went ballistic and insist they sedate him to give him a reprieve and take him off the fentanyl or else

- couple hours later when he should have flushed it out of his system and been doing better, they said he hadn't improved; that her protocol hadn't worked

- I went home at 2am, assuming I'd have to put him down in the a.m.

- They called in the a.m., saying he still wasn't doing well

- OK, I'm thinking, this is it. I procrastinate a few hours, call around for advice...

--Call back and suddenly he's doing great and can be discharged

Wait. What the...

 

Turns out the right protocol did resolve his acute distress and pain, BUT he was now having a bad reaction to the diazepam given at the same time, which they apparently didn't realize soon enough. After they took him off that, he was sleeping, eating and even walking outside for potty breaks.

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In the fog of all the above, and with the ER's insistence on aspirin being problematic, i missed Barker's advice to get him back on a larger dose of aspirin once he was home last Saturday.

 

I was giving him 8 pills of 4 diff meds 3x a day and already his yelping when getting up had disappeared & the limp was less pronounced by Monday. Back from the almost-dead! Yay!

Then suddenly Tuesday he stopped eating and was whining/panting every 2 hours in what I thought was pain but was instead a need to go out for major diarrhea blow outs. You guys know what that means: Annnnnd, CUE THE PANACUR! Boo.

By Thursday he was losing control of his bladder and his back legs were walking drunkenly. He was having blow-outs in the crate. This was the result of a small stroke, apparently. Quadruple boo.

 

FFWD to today: Last night was the first my neighbors didn't have to witness the crazy lady with colorful bathrobe and frightening bedhead taking her dog out to spray excrement onto the boulevard. Yay! His back legs are still a little draggy, Bambi-on-ice...but he can walk and I'm researching possibilities and prognosis for stroke-related rehab...

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