bradymom Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 What a roller-coaster ride for you and Elvis. So glad he's coming home with less pain. Quote The handsome boy Brady, mid-morning nap. The sun, the sun feels so, so, so good. I can't keep my eyes open ... ... Retirement agrees ... ... and the Diva Ms India, 2001 - 10/16/2009 .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 That is fantastic news. And yes, Tramadol is definitely known to cause agitation and panting like that in some dogs. If it were me,once you have a moment to get him home and spend some quality time with him, I would think about taking all of his test results and records (ask them to have them ready for you when you go to pick him up), including x-rays and get thee to a specialist at a place you trust more so they can try to figure out what happened in case things change again. SO glad you are getting to take your boy home. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houndtime Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Amazing and strange. Good luck. Quote Irene Ullmann w/Flying Odin and Mama Mia in Lower Delaware Angels Brandy, John E, American Idol, Paul, Fuzzy and Shine Handcrafted Greyhound and Custom Clocks http://www.houndtime.com Zoom Doggies-Racing Coats for Racing Greyhounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiggysMom Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Wonderful news! And while Tramadol goes over very well here, I also have heard that it can cause agitation in some dogs. So that could certainly have been contributing. Hug that big gorgeous boy for me! Wendy Quote Wendy with Twiggy, fosterless while Twiggy's fighting the good fight, and Donnie & Aiden the kitties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinw Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 (edited) Im so glad he's coming home. Tramadol caused awful agitation with Phoenix, and it's very scary because I couldn't tell if it was pain or side effects of the meds. Edited April 22, 2016 by robinw Quote Xavi the galgo and Peter the cat. Missing Iker the galgo ?-Feb.9/19, Treasure (USS Treasure) April 12/01-May 6/13, Phoenix (Hallo Top Son) Dec.14/99-June 4/11 and Loca (Reko Swahili) Oct.9/95 - June 1/09, Allen the boss cat, died late November, 2021, age 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newgreymom Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Dr. Jenifer called the ER dept when we lived in Grand Rapids MI and told them what regimen Dylan needed. He was screaming when we took him in. They gave him Robaxin, Rimadyl and one other thing I can't remember. We picked him up 12 hours later and came out like nothing happened. Tracy, (tbhounds) you are always there for us when we need you. Thank you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissn333 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 We have had mostly good luck with tramadol here, but, it agitated Sutra like nobody's business and the level of weirdness that comes with it is truly unnerving. I remember being awake all night with him panting, pacing, whining. I'd help him lay down and within 20 seconds he was up again. It was as though he'd gone insane. Glad things seem to have turned around for you! Quote Kristin in Moline, IL USA with Ozzie (MRL Crusin Clem), Clarice (Clarice McBones), Latte and Sage the IGs, and the kitties: Violet and Rose Lovingly Remembered: Sutra (Fliowa Sutra) 12/02/97-10/12/10, Pinky (Pick Me) 04/20/03-11/19/12, Fritz (Fritz Fire) 02/05/01 - 05/20/13, Ace (Fantastic Ace) 02/05/01 - 07/05/13, and Carrie (Takin the Crumbs) 05/08/99 - 09/04/13. A cure for cancer can't come soon enough.-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliemac Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Oh My ... I just responded on your other thread and then saw this one ... I'm so glad that things are looking brighter, but goodness you've had a rough week! HUGS to you both! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newgreymom Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 How is Elvis doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatricksMom Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I don't know if you're comfortable with this, or if Jennifer is, but Meloxicam, Tramadol, and Gabapentine are all human medications and could be called into a local pharmacy if you can't find a local vet to do it. Quote Beth, Petey (8 September 2018- ), and Faith (22 March 2019). Godspeed Patrick (28 April 1999 - 5 August 2012), Murphy (23 June 2004 - 27 July 2013), Leo (1 May 2009 - 27 January 2020), and Henry (10 August 2010 - 7 August 2020), you were loved more than you can know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GoingGrey Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Elvis Update! He's doing much better. Thanks for all your thoughtful replies! A lot has happened in the last week with his condition while waiting to see Jenifer Barker DVM yesterday. She examined him, looked at all the notes with his discharge papers (scoffing at much of what they said and did). It doesn't look like cancer, but a bulging cervical disc followed by a small stroke after I got him home last week. She hadn't even seen his xrays and she was able to say this w/confidence. I've started calling her hands a human MRI machine. ha Re: Tramadol, now that I have the chronology of meds and his response in the notes from the hospital, it was the fentanyl making things worse, just as she had said. A crazy cascade of things happened, apparently. In case my experience helps anyone here by preventing them from euthanizing their hound unnecessarily, here's what my non-layman brain can piece together: - Bulging cervical disc + referred pain = right foreleg limp - Pain worsened before our vet appt., so we went to ER, where he got fentanyl IV + patch - He got worse rapidly, extreme pain w/panting, whimpering, unable to lie down, things looking grim - Dr. Barker said it sounded like he was in a full body muscle spasm; rhabdomyelosis--she saw it all the time at the track - The fentanyl needed to be discontinued immediately and he needed muscle relaxants and steroids - ER refused due to his prior 1/4/day baby aspirin regimen for stroke prevention, and denial that fentanyl was causing a bad reaction - Barker and I fought all evening with the ER vets on this. From 8pm until 2am when I finally went ballistic and insist they sedate him to give him a reprieve and take him off the fentanyl or else - couple hours later when he should have flushed it out of his system and been doing better, they said he hadn't improved; that her protocol hadn't worked - I went home at 2am, assuming I'd have to put him down in the a.m. - They called in the a.m., saying he still wasn't doing well - OK, I'm thinking, this is it. I procrastinate a few hours, call around for advice... --Call back and suddenly he's doing great and can be discharged Wait. What the... Turns out the right protocol did resolve his acute distress and pain, BUT he was now having a bad reaction to the diazepam given at the same time, which they apparently didn't realize soon enough. After they took him off that, he was sleeping, eating and even walking outside for potty breaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GoingGrey Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 In the fog of all the above, and with the ER's insistence on aspirin being problematic, i missed Barker's advice to get him back on a larger dose of aspirin once he was home last Saturday. I was giving him 8 pills of 4 diff meds 3x a day and already his yelping when getting up had disappeared & the limp was less pronounced by Monday. Back from the almost-dead! Yay! Then suddenly Tuesday he stopped eating and was whining/panting every 2 hours in what I thought was pain but was instead a need to go out for major diarrhea blow outs. You guys know what that means: Annnnnd, CUE THE PANACUR! Boo. By Thursday he was losing control of his bladder and his back legs were walking drunkenly. He was having blow-outs in the crate. This was the result of a small stroke, apparently. Quadruple boo. FFWD to today: Last night was the first my neighbors didn't have to witness the crazy lady with colorful bathrobe and frightening bedhead taking her dog out to spray excrement onto the boulevard. Yay! His back legs are still a little draggy, Bambi-on-ice...but he can walk and I'm researching possibilities and prognosis for stroke-related rehab... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTRAWLD Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 What a whirlwind ride you are on. Thank you for the pupdate, and keep on taking good care of Elvis as he is clearly still in the building!!! Quote Proudly owned by:10 year old "Ryder" CR Redman Gotcha May 201012.5 year old Angel "Kasey" Goodbye Kasey Gotcha July 2005-Aug 1, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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