Koyotekyle Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 We have a 3 1/2 year old male foster who came from the track only 2 weeks ago. . We had to give him a shot. The guess is that we hit a nerve. He went in to a fit, ran around, kicked his legs. He had a shot of this stuff before with no reaction. Now he has tucked his paw under, and is walking on the top of his foot. No one has seen this type of reaction before, even the vet. It has been 4 days, and although it is slightly better, he is still has his paw tucked under a lot of the time. Has anyone scene this reaction before? We are so sad that this has happened, He such a sweet boy, really smart and we hoped to find him a great forever home, but look like this might not happen. Any suggestions or help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scouts_mom Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 If your vet doesn't know what to do, you need to take the dog to a specialist--probably a neurologist. Is there a vet school near you where you could take him? Worse case scenario is that the leg will need to be amputated. I don't see why you think he will never find a forever home--3 legged greys and permanently lame dogs find homes regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeh2o Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Geez Louise, have you taken him to SoCal in Irvine? He needs to see Dr. Berry the neurologist there ASAP. Quote Sunsands Doodles: Doodles aka Claire, Bella Run Softly: Softy aka Bowie (the Diamond Dog) Missing my beautiful boy Sunsands Carl 2.25.2003 - 4.1.2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawthorn Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 A sad situation, but hopefully if a nerve was damaged by the needle it will eventually heal completely, although nerves are slow to heal so could take a few weeks. Quote When a relationship of love is disrupted, the relationship does not cease. The love continues; therefore, the relationship continues. The work of grief is to reconcile and redeem life to a different love relationship. ~ W Scott Lineberry Always Greyhounds Home Boarding and Greyhounds With Love House Sitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macoduck Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 What kind of shot? Quote NoAh the podenco orito, Rita the podenco maneta, Howie the portuguese podengo maneto Angels: Mr X aka Denali, Lulu the podenco andaluz, Hada the podenco maneta, Georgie Girl (UMR Cordella), Charlie the iggy, Mazy (CBR Crazy Girl), Potato, my mystery ibizan girl, Allen (M's Pretty Boy), Percy (Fast But True), Mikey (Doray's Patuti), Pudge le mutt, Tessa the iggy, Possum (Apostle), Gracie (Dusty Lady), Harold (Slatex Harold), "Cousin" Simon our step-iggy, Little Dude the iggy ,Bandit (Bb Blue Jay), Niña the galgo, Wally (Allen Hogg), Thane (Pog Mo Thoine), Oliver (JJ Special Agent), Comet, & Rosie our original mutt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnF Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 It may have been a fear reaction leading to a mini-stroke. Needs to see a specialist neuro vet immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feisty49 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I have no advice about the incident, but I know I wouldn't hesitate to adopt a dog with an injury, whether limp or amputated leg, if I fell for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Was this a vaccine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koyotekyle Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) The shot was Imazol, for treatment of tick borne diseases.It was his 2nd injection, the 1st was when he was brought from the track two weeks ago. He has improved SLIGHTLY. We will be meeting with the group on Sunday and decide what to do next. Technically he is their dog and not ours. The guilt though is ours, we feel so bad. One of the guesses now is that he might have injured his leg in the spasm after the shot and not a direct result of the shot. No one has ever seen this type of reaction before, We are familiar with the great vets at SO CAL. We just brought a dog from Caliente Mexico with a broken leg to them. Edited February 11, 2016 by Koyotekyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scouts_mom Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 If the paw is tucked under and he is walking on the top of it, it is a nerve problem--not an injury suffered during a seizure. Is there anyway to have your group make a decision before Sunday? With many injuries, the earlier it is treated the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_daerr Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Definitely sounds like his nerve was affected, especially due to the paw knuckling-under. Did you give him the injection in his butt? If so, it's very possible you hit the sciatic... After four days, I'd be worried if that knuckling hasn't returned to normal. Time to do a neurology consult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Oh-Imizol. It's very common to experience post injection pain. Vomiting and diarrhea can be seen too-and actually in some cases it can effect kidney function. Is the vet that administered the vet aware of the reaction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scouts_mom Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 (edited) Tbhounds: Knuckling under is not a pain reaction! It is caused by nerve damage. I am very concerned that it has been 4 days since this happened and the original poster says she will not be talking with her group about taking the dog to a specialist until Sunday. So at a minimum it will be Monday, more than a week after the injury happened, before a vet will be able to do something can be done about the injury. If I had responsibility for the dog, we would have been at the vet days ago. Edited February 12, 2016 by Scouts_mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LindsaySF Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Imizol burns, that's why he ran around and kicked his legs. It's possible that he hurt his back while flailing his legs. The injection can also cause inflammation, so that may be playing a role. Have they given him anything for inflammation? I'd want him at a neuro ASAP for the knuckled under paw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 For the record-I completely understand the difference between pain and inflammation and neuro symptoms. The injection has the possibility of causing deep abscesses which in turn may be causing nerve pain/damage. The dog needs to return to the vet not just to the group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeh2o Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Update? Quote Sunsands Doodles: Doodles aka Claire, Bella Run Softly: Softy aka Bowie (the Diamond Dog) Missing my beautiful boy Sunsands Carl 2.25.2003 - 4.1.2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koyotekyle Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 UPDATE; We have taken him to another vet, a specialist Neurological Vet. The vets says he can't feel his leg or paw. The reaction is very unusual. Nerve damage usually doesn't last very long, however the prognosis is not encouraging. Basically both vets have said he will improve in time OR NOT. It has been three weeks and practically no improvement. We are giving him GABABPENTIN. and it seems to help him being able to get around. He hops where ever we go. Today is the longest he has been able to go, almost 1 1/2 miles. He really loves his walks and we have been trying to extend his exercise and walks. I don't have the heart to leave him home when I take the others out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeh2o Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 How scary, poor boy. It's great that he isn't letting it get him down. Hopefully, the walks will help bring it back. How about trying acupuncture? Quote Sunsands Doodles: Doodles aka Claire, Bella Run Softly: Softy aka Bowie (the Diamond Dog) Missing my beautiful boy Sunsands Carl 2.25.2003 - 4.1.2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AmberGusDad Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Keeping all of you in best thoughts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koyotekyle Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 How scary, poor boy. It's great that he isn't letting it get him down. Hopefully, the walks will help bring it back. How about trying acupuncture? My wife and I feel so bad. about the problem. Everyone says it is a freak thing and most have never had any reaction like this. Even the vets say the same thing.. We have used acupuncture, laser and acupressure on a prior dog and it helped. We are willing to try alternative treatments. Right after the Neurologist Vet follow up, we will give it a try. Keeping all of you in best thoughts.... Thank you, The prognosis is not very encouraging, but we can't give up our hope. He is such a sweet smart dog. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeh2o Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I don't know where you live in SoCal, but my vet practices western and alternative medicine and her mom does cold laser and acupuncture and she's (her mom) is amazing. She works with small animals as well as horses. If anyone can help, she can, she's amazing. Dr. Bamford is in Shadow Hills, her website is www.redrowan.com Quote Sunsands Doodles: Doodles aka Claire, Bella Run Softly: Softy aka Bowie (the Diamond Dog) Missing my beautiful boy Sunsands Carl 2.25.2003 - 4.1.2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawthorn Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I remember someone on here (don't remember who) whose greyhound injured the nerves in one of his front legs in a car accident. The leg was useless and the vets advised amputation but the owners didn't amputate and the leg eventually recovered. Quote When a relationship of love is disrupted, the relationship does not cease. The love continues; therefore, the relationship continues. The work of grief is to reconcile and redeem life to a different love relationship. ~ W Scott Lineberry Always Greyhounds Home Boarding and Greyhounds With Love House Sitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koyotekyle Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 I remember someone on here (don't remember who) whose greyhound injured the nerves in one of his front legs in a car accident. The leg was useless and the vets advised amputation but the owners didn't amputate and the leg eventually recovered. I hope so. the vets are not very encouraging. Since this injury is such a rarity it is hard to guess the prognosis. Amputation is not on the table. He is such a sweet smart dog. He will make some one a great companion. We are getting attached to him, so hopefully he will get well and find a forever home soon before we CAN'T give him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koyotekyle Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 Just had a suggestion to splint the paw in its correct position. Has anyone else done this? He is still curling his paw under and on our last walk he scraped the top of his paw. We have tried to keep a sock on it to prevent the scraping, but have not been real successful. He loves his walks, and I feel guilty leaving him home, so we try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3greytjoys Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 You might ask the vet about using either of the products below: Therapaw boots fit Greyhound paws well, and are much better than having no thick padded protection while walking outside. http://www.therapaw....a-pawboots.aspx Therapaws also makes a dorsi-flex assist to help keep paws in an upright position: http://www.therapaw....exassist-1.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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