turbotaina Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Dang, Carol Quote Meredith with Heyokha (HUS Me Teddy) and Crow (Mike Milbury). Missing Turbo (Sendahl Boss), Pancho, JoJo, and "Fat Stacks" Juana, the psycho kitty. Canku wakan kin manipi."Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burpdog Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I have not read the entire thread, but have you had an ultrasound of the kidneys? Quote Diane & The Senior Gang Burpdog Biscuits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MnMDogs Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) He's had an ultrasound, xrays, urinalysis, traumatic catheterizion (x2!!!), and prostate exam. We're at a loss... I assume the kidneys were looked at on the U/S, but now that you ask, I'll email my vet to confirm that they checked the kidney and not just bladder. Everything is completely normal, no stones, no visible tumors - the only abnormality is the swollen distal urethra. No cancer cells were found, but they can't rule it out since one of the causes of inflammation is urethral cell CA. He'll have a repeat U/S in a month to see how things look. Edited July 17, 2015 by MnMDogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgrey Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 He's had an ultrasound, xrays, urinalysis, traumatic catheterizion (x2!!!), and prostate exam. We're at a loss... I assume the kidneys were looked at on the U/S, but now that you ask, I'll email my vet to confirm that they checked the kidney and not just bladder. Everything is completely normal, no stones, no visible tumors - the only abnormality is the swollen distal urethra. No cancer cells were found, but they can't rule it out since one of the causes of inflammation is urethral cell CA. He'll have a repeat U/S in a month to see how things look. That sounds very encouraging. Keep us posted. Quote Cynthia, & Cristiano, galgoAlways in my heart: Frostman Newdawn Frost, Keno Jet Action & Chloe (NGA racing name unknown), Irys (galgo), Hannah (weim), Cruz (galgo), & Carly CW Your Charming Princess http://www.greyhound-data.com/d?i=1018857 "It came to me that every time I lose a dog they take a piece of my heart with them. And every new dog who comes into my life, gifts me with a piece of their heart. If I live long enough, all the components of my heart will be dog, and I will become as generous and loving as they are." -- Unknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MnMDogs Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Unfortunately, despite his young age, Dr. Couto thinks urethral cancer is the most likely explanation. I have more questions and I hope he's wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I hope he's wrong too. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Unfortunately, despite his young age, Dr. Couto thinks urethral cancer is the most likely explanation. I have more questions and I hope he's wrong. I was going to say it but.....I sure thought it too. What was Dr Couto's suggestion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Houndtime Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Oh. I wasn't expecting to see this. So sorry. Quote Irene Ullmann w/Flying Odin and Mama Mia in Lower Delaware Angels Brandy, John E, American Idol, Paul, Fuzzy and Shine Handcrafted Greyhound and Custom Clocks http://www.houndtime.com Zoom Doggies-Racing Coats for Racing Greyhounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotaina Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Oh, Carol, I'm sorry. Quote Meredith with Heyokha (HUS Me Teddy) and Crow (Mike Milbury). Missing Turbo (Sendahl Boss), Pancho, JoJo, and "Fat Stacks" Juana, the psycho kitty. Canku wakan kin manipi."Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MnMDogs Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) He's still looking at records, and suggested biopsy or scope. My vet and I had discussed scope, but since she had to use such a small catheter in the swollen area, it's not possible. He's on Piroxicam, and hopefully that will help with the swelling... I just cannot grasp how this is possible. How can there be no evidence of cancer on cytology - 2 traumatic catheterizations - and have this be cancer? I really don't get it. There's no blood in urine, he's not even 7. I think I'm going to lose it, I just can't accept this. Edit because we really don't even know how old he is. He's just young. Edited July 20, 2015 by MnMDogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Sometimes cancer cells are missed because the run deeper than the lining. For example sometimes you miss cancer cells when getting biopies via an endoscopy when scoping IBD dogs. That's why while more invasive it's preferred to get what they call a true cut--full thickness of the gut. Hang tight and see what Dr Couto recommends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MnMDogs Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I don't know that we will pursue further tests. We know we need to control the swelling, aside from that, I don't think we will subject him to more tests. He's a very anxious boy, and I just want him to be happy. Thank you for your repy, I'm just in shock. I also woke up to a fat faced Macy May who was apparently stung by a bee at 5:30 am... I want a do-over for today, maybe the past 60 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Carol Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Hang in there. Should this turn out to be cancer there is a surgery that can be done (of course contingent on type, location....) It's called a perianal urethrostomy. There are options--Dr Couto won't steer you wrong. I know it's hard to wait but, don't get ahead if yourself. Get Macy some Benadryl and you a cup of coffee (spike it if it will help!) <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MnMDogs Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Thank you I'm extra stressed since I'm moving in less than 2 weeks - back to the east coast. So that's weighing on my mind as well, that I won't be here, and then we'll be up and moving the hounds as soon as we have a house. It's just a bit much at the moment Not knowing with 100% certainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Thank you I'm extra stressed since I'm moving in less than 2 weeks - back to the east coast. So that's weighing on my mind as well, that I won't be here, and then we'll be up and moving the hounds as soon as we have a house. It's just a bit much at the moment Not knowing with 100% certainty. Where on the East coast? The good news is that we have a ton of really great specialists over here, at least in the mid-Atlantic, including Dr. Couto himself. Hang in there, I would be overwhelmed as well. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MnMDogs Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Back to Boston/Cambridge area. It's where I'm from, but I have no idea of the vets out there any more. I guess I need to start asking! Anyway, I'm now ready to go deep into denial. Thanks again all for your posts, and for reading my rantings, and for understanding. I guess I'll get in touch with my old group and see if they have recommendations for once we're there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remolacha Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I am so sorry to hear this. I hope that either the preliminary diagnosis is wrong, or that it is something they can treat. Bad timing, but you will get through this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_the4pack Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Angel is in the Boston area if I'm not mistaken. But Jen is right, there are a ton of really great vets and hospitals. Dr Couto is in mid Pa now. I'm guessing but I think maybe 6-8 hrs away, which really isn't bad. I drove 10 hrs from NJ to Ohio to see him when he was at OSU. I hope things turn out ok. He's such a young pup. Handsome too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MnMDogs Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Great update post 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45MPHK9 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 That's a great update. Quote Tricia with Kyle, our senior mutt dog Always missing Murray Maldives, Bee Wiseman, River, Hopper, Kaia, and Holly Oaks Holly“You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.“ -Bob Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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