greypop Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Our almost-11-year old boy Declan started coughing about a week ago, which we put down to allergies. However, it got worse and, last night, he woke up in the middle of the night coughing and unable to breathe, and his legs went out from under him. We took him to the vet this morning, and x-rays show a possible torsion of the middle lobe of one of his lungs. We're waiting on the results of a needle biopsy to rule out infection or a tumor, but the torsion appears the most likely diagnosis. If it is torsion, we have to decide in the next day whether to have the surgery, or set him free. We hate the thought of letting go, but it's also our responsibility to decide for him when enough is enough, and whether the suffering will be worth it. Any knowledge on the prognosis among greys (especially seniors) with this procedure would be welcome. As would be your good thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Yikes-I do know you,need to move rather quickly one this one. The prognosis isn't terribly good after surgery and the longer you wait the worse the prognosis. Poor Declan--please, if you have the surgery make sure it's done at a high end clinic-tricky surgery and will require a chest tube for a few days post surgery. Absolutely have Amicar on hand. Please keep us updated <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greypop Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 All the tests so far are inconclusive. They're draining the fluid from the area and then doing an ultrasound to see if it's an encapsulated area, or if they can tell if it's a torsion. Then the plan is to bring him home and see how he does. What's confusing things is that Declan really doesn't seem as sick (except in this morning's episode) as the literature suggests he should be. It could be that the grey's lung capacity is letting him compensate, it could be it's really not a torsion, or it could be we're fooling ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHead Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 No suggestions, but just offering support as I have just been going through lung issues with my dog (coughing, fluid draining, etc.). Crossing my fingers that there is a positive outcome for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burpdog Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Obviously you have to get a reliable diagnosis before you can choose treatment whether it's surgery or ? I would have the results read by a specialist for a second opinion. His is not that old! Diane & The Senior Gang Burpdog Biscuits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greymomnc Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 A good friend's grey had a lung torsion...not once...but twice! I want to say he was somewhere between 5 and 8 years old when the second one occurred. His second surgery was at the veterinary teaching hospital. He made a complete recovery from both. Based on the availability of care in my area, I would only have this done at a veterinary teaching hospital. Sending prayers that you find the answers you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I believe they reccomend a ct scan as a good diagnostic test. Is this clinic set up to do scan's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greypop Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 I believe they reccomend a ct scan as a good diagnostic test. Is this clinic set up to do scan's? That's the step we're deciding on now. If we decide on surgery, we bring him in tomorrow morning, they do a C/T and, if it confirms a torsion, keep him sedated and do the surgery. If the C/T shows a mass, we cancel the surgery and bring Declan home for palliative care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 That's the step we're deciding on now. If we decide on surgery, we bring him in tomorrow morning, they do a C/T and, if it confirms a torsion, keep him sedated and do the surgery. If the C/T shows a mass, we cancel the surgery and bring Declan home for palliative care. I'll be thinking of you both <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houndtime Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Thinking good thoughts for Declan. Irene Ullmann w/Flying Odin and Mama Mia in Lower Delaware Angels Brandy, John E, American Idol, Paul, Fuzzy and Shine Handcrafted Greyhound and Custom Clocks http://www.houndtime.com Zoom Doggies-Racing Coats for Racing Greyhounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45MPHK9 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Thinking good thoughts for all of you. Tricia with Kyle, our senior mutt dog Always missing Murray Maldives, Bee Wiseman, River, Hopper, Kaia, and Holly Oaks Holly“You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.“ -Bob Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgrey Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Sending good thoughts. Cynthia, & Cristiano, galgoAlways in my heart: Frostman Newdawn Frost, Keno Jet Action & Chloe (NGA racing name unknown), Irys (galgo), Hannah (weim), Cruz (galgo), & Carly CW Your Charming Princess http://www.greyhound-data.com/d?i=1018857 "It came to me that every time I lose a dog they take a piece of my heart with them. And every new dog who comes into my life, gifts me with a piece of their heart. If I live long enough, all the components of my heart will be dog, and I will become as generous and loving as they are." -- Unknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3greys2cats Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Saying prayers for Declan and you, hoping for the best. Roberta & Michael with Furkids- Flower (Shasta Flowers 6/7/06) & Rascal the kitty - Missing our sweet angels - Max(M's Mad Max) 10/12/02 - 12/3/15, Sara (Sara Raves 6/30/01 - 4/13/12) Queenie & Pandora the kitties - gone but never forgotten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busderpuddle Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Prayers for all of you. Karen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeh2o Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 It's going to be a long night...hoping for the best for your boy. Sunsands Doodles: Doodles aka Claire, Bella Run Softly: Softy aka Bowie (the Diamond Dog) Missing my beautiful boy Sunsands Carl 2.25.2003 - 4.1.2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies_Dad Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Good thoughts for Declan and you. Kyle with Stewie ('Super C Ledoux, Super C Sampson x Sing It Blondie) and forever missing my three angels, Jack ('Roy Jack', Greys Flambeau x Miss Cobblepot) and Charlie ('CTR Midas Touch', Leo's Midas x Hallo Argentina) and Shelby ('Shari's Hooty', Flying Viper x Shari Carusi) running free across the bridge. Gus an coinnich sinn a'rithist my boys and little girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatterseaBrindl Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Nancy...Mom to Sid (Peteles Tiger), Kibo (112 Carlota Galgos) and Joshi. Missing Casey, Gomer, Mona, Penelope, BillieJean, Bandit, Nixon (Starz Sammie), Ruby (Watch Me Dash) Nigel (Nigel), and especially little Mario, waiting at the Bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeofNE Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 That's horrible. I didn't even know that could happen. Susan, Hamish, Mister Bigglesworth and Nikita Stanislav. Missing Ming, George, and Buck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Thinking about you guys this morning. Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotaina Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Sending you guys good thought Meredith with Heyokha (HUS Me Teddy) and Crow (Mike Milbury). Missing Turbo (Sendahl Boss), Pancho, JoJo, and "Fat Stacks" Juana, the psycho kitty. Canku wakan kin manipi."Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 No experience with this, but thinking of you and Declan. Laura with Celeste (ICU Celeste) and Galgos Beatrix and Encarna The Horse - Gracie (MD Grace E) Bridge Angels Faye Oops (Santa Fe Oops), Bonny (Bonny Drive), Darcy (D's Zipperfoot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NeylasMom Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Any updates? Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greypop Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 Well, they did the pre-op C/T and found no sign of a lung lobe torsion, so the surgery is cancelled. So far, every test has been negative. They're not sure what it is, and are running a couple more tests tonight. They're also giving him IVs to flush the contrast dye from his kidneys. We're bringing Declan home tomorrow afternoon. He's going to be in pain from the positioning for the C/T, and on restricted activity. Even though we don't have a cause, not needing to undergo surgery is always better. It might be chylothorax (buildup of fatty fluids in the pleural area). It might be some weird ideopathic thing that will never be resolved. We'll just watch and cuddle Declan, and take things as they come. Thanks to all for the good thoughts; they certainly helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Wonderful news! Although not having a cause is frustrating, at least Declan doesn't have to have surgery. Laura with Celeste (ICU Celeste) and Galgos Beatrix and Encarna The Horse - Gracie (MD Grace E) Bridge Angels Faye Oops (Santa Fe Oops), Bonny (Bonny Drive), Darcy (D's Zipperfoot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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