greysmom Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 This was in our paper today. NOTE THIS IS A HUMAN SIDE EFFECT, and a rare one at that, though it seems to me it could be something that could occur in dogs, as well. Tramadol, in general, is touted as a safe pain reliever, but we have seen several dogs here on GT who have had issues with it. Just something to consider, especially for our senior dogs. THE PEOPLE’S PHARMACY Hallucinations from pain meds a concern By Joe and Teresa Graedon Q: I was recently prescribed tramadol for pain from a bad hip. I ended up with hallucinations; ghostlike people were floating along next to my shoulder. I thought I was going crazy, and I think my doctor agreed. He said tramadol is a very safe pain medication. Have you heard of anyone else experiencing hallucinations on this drug? A: Hallucinations are not mentioned in the official prescribing information for tramadol, though they have been reported when people stop taking tramadol suddenly. More than 10 years ago, auditory hallucinations were traced to tramadol in a case report (BMJ, Dec. 23-30, 2000). We also are concerned about a rare but serious side effect of tramadol. A review of medical records in the U.K. revealed that people taking tramadol were almost three times more likely than others to end up in the hospital with dangerously low blood sugar (JAMA Internal Medicine online, Dec. 8, 2014). The risk is low, but it is one that both doctors and patients should be aware of. Symptoms may include confusion, dizziness, headache, sweating, weaknessand poor coordination. Quote Chris - Mom to: Felicity (DeLand), and Andi (Braska Pandora) siggy by Chris Harper, on Flickr Angels: Libby (Everlast), Dorie (Dog Gone Holly), Dude (TNJ VooDoo), Copper (Kid's Copper), Cash (GSI Payncash), Toni (LPH Cry Baby), Whiskey (KT's Phys Ed), Atom, Lilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiveRoooooers Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Thank you for sharing this. Quote Old Dogs are the Best Dogs. Thank you, campers. Current enrollees: Punkin. AnnIE Oooh M, Ebbie, HollyBeeBop (Betty Crocker). Angels: Pal . Segugio. Sorella (TPGIT). LadyBug. Zeke-aroni. MiMi Sizzle Pants. Gracie. Seamie . (Foster)Sweet. Andy. PaddyALVIN!Mayhem. Bosco. Bruno. Dottie B. Trevor Double-Heart. Bea. Cletus, KLTO. Aiden 1-4. Upon reflection, our lives are often referenced in parts defined by the all-too-short lives of our dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 We experienced some unfortunate dog side effects with Tramadol. Lessened a good deal by dividing the full dose and giving it over a couple hours rather than all at once. Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4My2Greys Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 That could certainly explain some of the adverse reactions that some greyhounds have had after taking tramadol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnF Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 And there was one side effect of it that I noticed in my last dog, Angel. A case of severe heart arryhthmia (going like a motor with occasional big bumps). I read up the human literature on it and it would seem it was an 'overdose' effect caused in poor Angel by her kidney failure and consequent inability to excrete it from the body fast enough. It took nearly 36 hours for it to clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgrey Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I'm fairly certain Princess had hallucinations when she was given (against my wishes) Tramadol after her dental last year. She paced and whined and would run from room to room like she was following something or hearing something -- all night long. It was horrible. Never again. Quote Cynthia, & Cristiano, galgoAlways in my heart: Frostman Newdawn Frost, Keno Jet Action & Chloe (NGA racing name unknown), Irys (galgo), Hannah (weim), Cruz (galgo), & Carly CW Your Charming Princess http://www.greyhound-data.com/d?i=1018857 "It came to me that every time I lose a dog they take a piece of my heart with them. And every new dog who comes into my life, gifts me with a piece of their heart. If I live long enough, all the components of my heart will be dog, and I will become as generous and loving as they are." -- Unknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boopieface Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 A woman that I know was taking Tramadol. One day she called the police because there was a leopard in her fireplace Quote Aljo Atomic Kogo and DC Man of Steal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chickenpotpie Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) Lucky has never had bad side effects from tramadol, which I'm thankful for because she's already crazy enough. Edited January 1, 2015 by chickenpotpie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesiRayMom Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Desi & I both take Tramadol occasionally. Thank heavens neither one of us have ever had any adverse effects. Quote Blessed is the person who has earned the love of an old dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfish Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 It is listed as a side effect. I've taken it myself, and got aural hallucinations (quite pleasant, actually, they consisted of someone singing in my right ear). Quite a number of meds have hallucinations as a side effect. My DH has seen bats, beetles coming out of his watch, and has actually tripped over a yellow snake he hallucinated in our kitchen (I was there at the time, and there was definitely no snake) while he was on something entirely different. I've posted before on Tramadol threads on Greytalk suggesting that our dogs could suffer from aural hallucinations when taking Tramadol, which could explain the paranoid symptoms they sometimes display. Aural hallucinations are by far the most common, but visual ones are not unknown, I think. Quote The plural of anecdote is not dataBrambleberry Greyhounds My Etsy Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dmt Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 When my boy, Dexter, had arthritis, the vet was going to prescribe tramadol and told me that it sometimes can have a psychological effect. I chose not to put him on it cuz he had enough issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greysmom Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 I was most interested in the effects mentioned after the hallucinations in the above article - many opioid drugs can cause this, afterall. But the low blood sugar issue probably isn't one most vets will check, and it seems we sometimes have a rash of dogs having confusion, weakness, dizziness, etc. I just wonder if it's not low blood sugar caused by tramadol, at least sometimes. Quote Chris - Mom to: Felicity (DeLand), and Andi (Braska Pandora) siggy by Chris Harper, on Flickr Angels: Libby (Everlast), Dorie (Dog Gone Holly), Dude (TNJ VooDoo), Copper (Kid's Copper), Cash (GSI Payncash), Toni (LPH Cry Baby), Whiskey (KT's Phys Ed), Atom, Lilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfish Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I'm fairly certain Princess had hallucinations when she was given (against my wishes) Tramadol after her dental last year. She paced and whined and would run from room to room like she was following something or hearing something -- all night long. It was horrible. Never again. This is exactly what Sid was like on Vetergesic, a different opiate painkiller. He ran out into the garden and seemed panicked, but when anyone went out to fetch him in, he ran away from us as if we were dangerous monsters. Funnily enough, he is fine on Tramadol! I think the lesson is that we should all be aware of possible side-effects from whatever we, or our dogs, are prescribed. If anything major shows up, we need to get back to our doctors or vets and let them know ASAP, in case it is one of these rare but potentially side-effects. Low blood sugar could be very serious indeed, depending on how low, and the individual's state of health. Quote The plural of anecdote is not dataBrambleberry Greyhounds My Etsy Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeofNE Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I've been on Tramadol for years. Even the article quoted said that hallucinations are NOT one of the side effects, and has been reported only by patients who stop taking it suddenly. Giving your dog Tramadol for a week or so and then discontinuing it is not the same sort of deal as, for example, ME who takes it daily, and has for years. Quote Susan, Hamish, Mister Bigglesworth and Nikita Stanislav. Missing Ming, George, and Buck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfish Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) I've been on Tramadol for years. Even the article quoted said that hallucinations are NOT one of the side effects, and has been reported only by patients who stop taking it suddenly. Giving your dog Tramadol for a week or so and then discontinuing it is not the same sort of deal as, for example, ME who takes it daily, and has for years. ... on the other hand, I was prescribed it after shoulder surgery and had been taking it continuously (without any stopping, or even late doses)for about ten days when i began getting the hallucinations. And Sid had had one single dose. I can't prove he was having hallucinations, but it sure looked like it to us. I think there are sensitive people (and animals) who suffer side effects to certain drugs more quickly or more severely than others. Edited January 2, 2015 by silverfish Quote The plural of anecdote is not dataBrambleberry Greyhounds My Etsy Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfish Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 This is a government health advice site which states quite clearly that hallucinations are indeed a possible side effect of Tramadol. And this is a quick photo of the relevant part of my own Tramadol information leaflet. It's listed as a 'rare' side effect, it's true, but that doesn't mean it never happens. Clearly it does! Quote The plural of anecdote is not dataBrambleberry Greyhounds My Etsy Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Celestrina Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 ... on the other hand, I was prescribed it after shoulder surgery and had been taking it continuously (without any stopping, or even late doses)for about ten days when i began getting the hallucinations. And Sid had had one single dose. I can't prove he was having hallucinations, but it sure looked like it to us. I think there are sensitive people (and animals) who suffer side effects to certain drugs more quickly or more severely than others. No question. DM was given Percocet (oxycodone/acetomeniphen) after her surgery. It gave her horrible nightmares and panic attacks. Her nightmares were so realistic she came into my room crying and asking why I left her alone all day. I had never left the house; not even to walk Angie. She only took one dose before bed two nights in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Everybody's reactions to meds are different. Bu is on it right now and except for being a little extra sleepy, he's doing great. He's also on a couple others meds, so the sleepiness could be due to any of them. I'm also in it and it knocks me out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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