Riverhound Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) Is it more important to get fluids in, any fluids, or rest the tummy? Joe has had diarrhea since Tuesday night. Every hour or two, but four times since 6:30 this morning (four times in the last hour). He has no interest in water, Gatorade or plain broth. He desperately wants the pizza I'm eating for breakfast! I make a turkey and rice slurry last night, which he loved. It made the diarrhea worse. Skin bounces back when pinched, gums look ok. He's feeling not real good, though. So, do I just let him be, or give him more of his mush, watered down further? We can't do a trip to the vet during the day today, but will tonight if this doesn't stop. Edited November 23, 2014 by Riverhound Quote Masterful Joe and Naughty N Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotaina Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) Try giving him a metamucil wafer to see if that slows down the diarrhea. I do think it's very important to hydrate as these guys have the tendency to go downhill really fast. Maybe try cutting some milk into his water and see if he'll drink that. It sounds like you're going to need flagyl. Any idea what caused it? Also, I've had fairly good luck using sweet potatoes and chicken for diarrhea. In Turbo's last few months with us, he was regularly getting digestive upset. We'd cook a sweet potato in the microwave for 8 minutes (until soft), then let it cool and/or refrigerate it and serve it up with some sort of protein like bland pulled chicken or boiled eggs. Hope you can get a handle on it Edited November 20, 2014 by turbotaina Quote Meredith with Heyokha (HUS Me Teddy) and Crow (Mike Milbury). Missing Turbo (Sendahl Boss), Pancho, JoJo, and "Fat Stacks" Juana, the psycho kitty. Canku wakan kin manipi."Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverhound Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 Thanks. No idea what did this. He had a Rimadyl Monday morning (with food), but that's never bothered him before. Quote Masterful Joe and Naughty N Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotaina Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Huh. Could be the rimadyl, could be anything I guess. Maybe put a call in to your vet as well and see what they recommend. They'll probably want to see him since his diarrhea is so frequent, but maybe they can give you some ideas over the phone to let you know what to do until you can get him in. Good luck! Quote Meredith with Heyokha (HUS Me Teddy) and Crow (Mike Milbury). Missing Turbo (Sendahl Boss), Pancho, JoJo, and "Fat Stacks" Juana, the psycho kitty. Canku wakan kin manipi."Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverhound Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 Appointment is at 5:30. Vet said to try chicken and rice, ice cubes, Gatorade. BTDT. Poor Joe. I gotta say, he's such a good boy. Woke me up every single time last night. I bet he tries to hold it until I come home for lunch, too. Puppy pads are going down in the kitchen, though. Quote Masterful Joe and Naughty N Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotaina Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Aw, poor fella. Turbo had diarrhea in the house once when we weren't home. He was mortified. He was also really funny about night time potties - he would whisper-bark to get us up, it was a very soft "wooof", like "psst, hey. You awake?" Hope Joe's on the mend quickly! Oh - here's a weird thing, and I don't know if Joe will go for it, but Heyokha absolutely LOVES coconut water. He'd suck down a quart of it if I'd let him. If you can easily get some non-sweetened (or hell, at this point, even sweetened) coconut water, maybe Joe will like it? Since it's become a bit of a fad drink, you can find it in all natural grocery markets and most standard grocery markets, and in every Latino market (the sweetened variety). Quote Meredith with Heyokha (HUS Me Teddy) and Crow (Mike Milbury). Missing Turbo (Sendahl Boss), Pancho, JoJo, and "Fat Stacks" Juana, the psycho kitty. Canku wakan kin manipi."Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverhound Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 Coconut water is a great idea! I may be able to grab some at lunch. Quote Masterful Joe and Naughty N Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan41 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I wouldn't feed him for 24 hours. Some dogs do better on mashed potatoes and chicken or egg noodles and chicken. if rice is your preference, cook it in twice the water for twice the recommended time so that it's mush. It's supposed to be easier on the digestive tract, too. Whatever works best, just feed it as wet as he will tolerate it and that will add to his daily water intake, too. I just adopted a senior who came to me with "colitis" which may have been 6 year long bout with hookworm, dx'd by my Vet via ELISA. I did all the usual OTC anti-diarrhea meds with mixed success, treating with probiotics, Zymex II by Standard Process and a Chinese herb called Eight Gentleman, but his poop ranged from gravy to formed but soft serve and everything in between. Went online and discovered OLEWO dehydrated carrots. I have no idea why they work, but I can tell you that I will never be without them! Holy bulk forming, Batman! What a difference! Meredith, thanks for the coconut water suggestion! Will have to try that one! Sure hope Joe feel better soon! Quote Linda, Mom to Fuzz, Barkley, and the felines Miss Kitty, Simon and Joseph.Waiting at The Bridge: Alex, Josh, Harley, Nikki, Beemer, Anna, Frank, Rachel, my heart & soul, Suze and the best boy ever, Dalton.<p> ....for all those hounds that are sick, hurt, lost or waiting for their forever homes. SENIORS ROCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverhound Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 Puddle of bloody looking liquid poo on the kitchen floor when I came home from lunch. Vet doesn't want me to drop him off and run back to work, so we're still waiting till after. He's officially feeling funky now. (I had a dog with HGE when I was a teenager. Horrible. This isn't that) I was out sick yesterday and should've taken him in. He seemed like he was getting better. My poor, poor baby. Quote Masterful Joe and Naughty N Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4My2Greys Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I can't believe your vet didn't want you to bring him in earlier. It sure sounds like the beginnings of HGE to me and from what I know the earlier treatment is started the better. Poor Joe . One thing that helped Nadir in the past with episodes of bloody diarrhea was Manuka honey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotaina Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Aw, poor guy! A small amount of blood isn't unusual when the colon is irritated, so if it's a trace amount, your vet is right to not be overly concerned. I'm sure you'll be gettting flagyl tonight! Quote Meredith with Heyokha (HUS Me Teddy) and Crow (Mike Milbury). Missing Turbo (Sendahl Boss), Pancho, JoJo, and "Fat Stacks" Juana, the psycho kitty. Canku wakan kin manipi."Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatterseaBrindl Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Awwww..... JOE We'll look for an update later. Quote Nancy...Mom to Sid (Peteles Tiger), Kibo (112 Carlota Galgos) and Joshi. Missing Casey, Gomer, Mona, Penelope, BillieJean, Bandit, Nixon (Starz Sammie), Ruby (Watch Me Dash) Nigel (Nigel), and especially little Mario, waiting at the Bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest k9soul Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Poor guy. Hope he's feeling better soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverhound Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 Sent to evet to be admitted. Heart rate low. Temp low. Gums tacky Quote Masterful Joe and Naughty N Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Heartrate low?? Usually they are tachycardic when dehydrated. Keep us posted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greylover97 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Sending good thoughts for my buddy Joe. Call me if you want to talk. Keep us posted. Quote Carolina (R and A Carolina) & Rebel (FA Ready).At the bridge: Kira (Driven by Energy) 7/19/97 - 6/17/04 & Jake (Jumpstart Dude) 9/12/00 - 1/24/15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kudzu Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Oh no. Sending good thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverhound Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 Heart rate was 50 at our vet, is up to 75 here. Temp 101.4 now. She doesn't feel any masses. Took him out of room for ultrasound and rectal. We're hoping *just* diarrhea that developed HGE at this point. I didn't like the other options at all. Looks like he'll be admitted for fluids regardless. Quote Masterful Joe and Naughty N Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotaina Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Oh no! Sending you guys lots of good thoughts! :hope Quote Meredith with Heyokha (HUS Me Teddy) and Crow (Mike Milbury). Missing Turbo (Sendahl Boss), Pancho, JoJo, and "Fat Stacks" Juana, the psycho kitty. Canku wakan kin manipi."Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Sounds like a normal HR and temp now :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverhound Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 Nothing funky on the ultrasound that this vet saw. She cautioned that she isn't a radiologist. Rectal was bloody, and made him need to go again so I went flying out into the cold night so he squirt more blood. They're getting the paperwork ready to admit him. Thank god for insurance! Quote Masterful Joe and Naughty N Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotaina Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Poor guy. Keep us posted Quote Meredith with Heyokha (HUS Me Teddy) and Crow (Mike Milbury). Missing Turbo (Sendahl Boss), Pancho, JoJo, and "Fat Stacks" Juana, the psycho kitty. Canku wakan kin manipi."Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustSnoozing Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Sending loads of good thoughts to Joe. Quote Dippy (Dinky Dipstick) and Velvet (Redbrick Velvet). Remembering sweet handsome Rebel (Emporio Rebel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatterseaBrindl Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Quote Nancy...Mom to Sid (Peteles Tiger), Kibo (112 Carlota Galgos) and Joshi. Missing Casey, Gomer, Mona, Penelope, BillieJean, Bandit, Nixon (Starz Sammie), Ruby (Watch Me Dash) Nigel (Nigel), and especially little Mario, waiting at the Bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverhound Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 Thanks. Hubby and I are home. It figures that the one time I don't flip out and run to the vet something really bad happens. I'm just going to flip out whenever I want now. That's ok, right? Quote Masterful Joe and Naughty N Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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