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Hi, for reference for others who may go through the same thing, I just wanted to post the findings of the autopsy for my baby Red. My original post of his illness was titled

Very Sick Grey...advice Needed Not Sure How To Proceed Or If To Procee just in case anyone is trying to look it up later.

 

So here goes..... I am cutting and pasting from another message forgive me if it seems disjointed but I've written it several times.

 

For Red it apparently was all intestinal and there was no immune response seen so it wasn't allergy, autoimmune or infection. They biopsied several areas of the intestine, kidney, liver, spleen and possibly other tissues but it all was so overwhelming I might've missed something.

My vet said there was absolutely nothing we could've done even if we'd known.

One of the vets in my greyhound adoption group lost her dog a few months ago to this exact condition I'm about to describe...she recognized it earlier than I did (by a month) but still couldn't save her girl.

The overall rundown is he had a combination of intestinal conditions that were unrecoverable. If we had known ahead of time it was going to happen there was still no way to stop it and no way to save him.
The conditions he had were a "perfect trifecta" all bowel related
and it was going to happen no matter what........it was a train wreck of unknown causes and totally out of our hands...
No cancer seen in any of the tissues analyzed, but he had protein losing enteropathy (PLE), lymphangiecstasia....where the cells lining
the intestine have completely reconfigured themselves and decided to perform a different function,
mild IBD, and many intestinal lesions. No sign of autoimmune illness, it's completely idiopathic (of unknown cause)
She said his kidneys had mild inflammation but were not losing protein into the urine.... the loss was all the bowel. Liver was fine, no sign of liver disease, spleen
had hemmorraged with severe acute necrosis (probably from the PLE but possibly from injury)
My poor Red dog : ( I wish I had known so I could let him go sooner.

I'm going to copy this post and put in the medical section in case anyone else is facing a crisis like this. Hopefully it may help even if just to ease the heartache.

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I'm so sorry. I lost my Jack to lymphangiectasia. He was losing protein, and an ultrasound showed a mass. Did surgery, and found out the mass was 'clogged lymphatics'. We put him on pred, trying to get it under control....but then he developed blood clots so we let him go. I fully understand how hard it is. Please don't beat yourself up for not knowing sooner--there wasn't any way you could've known.

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Thank you for sharing. :grouphug

 

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I'm so sorry :(.

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We lost a dog to PLE, as well. It's so hard to know what to do and when to stop trying to make it better.

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Big hugs to you. And a big thank you for sharing those results.

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So sorry for your loss. Thank you for having the strength to share your autopsy findings. I am certain it will be helpful for others.

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Oh, I'm so sorry. This must have been terribly difficult for you. Sometimes everything we do, every way we try to keep them safe and healthy, just isn't enough, and it's not our fault, or yours. He knew how much you loved him. :grouphug

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:grouphug Thank you for sharing.

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Thanks for sharing Red's Autopsy report. I hope you find peace knowing you did everything you could for Red.

 

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Is this a genetic disease or just a draw of unlucky numbers? I'm so sorry for your loss....

I have no idea.....I know it's found in some breeds of dogs at very high levels and probably genetic there...greyhounds weren't on that list....perhaps some of the vets and vet techs with knowledge of this can chime in?

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Is this a genetic disease or just a draw of unlucky numbers? I'm so sorry for your loss....

 

"The most common cause of lymphangiectasia was congenital malformation of the lymphatics. Secondary lymphangiectasia may be caused by granulomas or cancer causing lymphatic obstruction, or increased central venous pressure (CVP) causing abnormal lymph drainage. Increased CVP can be caused by pericarditis or right-sided heart failure. Inflammatory bowel disease can also lead to inflammation of the lymphatics and lymphangiectasia through migration of inflammatory cells through the lymphatics"

- information from a google search, not sure which website had this info

 

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Thank you for sharing. I hope knowing you did everything you could for Red helps you find peace.

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I am so sorry. At least you know now that nothing would have helped or saved him - that might seem like cold comfort right now, but in time it might help to know. Whatever you do, do not beat yourself up for not letting him go sooner. If you had done so, you'd be beating yourself up for not trying harder so it's a lose-lose situation and better not to go there.

 

You did all that you could. You made the best choices you could make, with the information which was available to you and you did it all with love. No dog could ask for more.

 

Sending many hugs. :grouphug

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