NeylasMom Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 So the person who is supposed to watch Skye for me while I'm at Grapehounds found out a couple of days ago that his foster picked up kennel cough in the kennel over the holiday weekend. She's on ABs now and will be finishing her 10 day course right after I'd drop Skye off. There is another dog in the house, who did not stay in that kennel and who is so far asymptomatic. I'm wondering what I should do. Options are to not worry about it, vaccinate her asap, or take her with me. Here's the timeline: 7/5-7/7: Molly (foster dog) picks up kennel cough in kennel 7/7: Molly returns home with her "brother" Tyler (resident dog) 7/15: Dave (foster parent) realizes she has kennel cough, starts her on ABs 7/23: When I would drop Skye off 7/24: Last day of ABs for Molly My vet said that as long as the dog isn't actively symptomatic (ie. coughing) when I drop Skye off, it's unlikely she would get it, but still a slight possibility. Obviously if Tyler starts coughing at some point between now and then we have a whole new scenario. Vet also said vaccine does take a bit to kick in, but wouldn't give me a specific timeline. I am reading online 5 days, which means if I take her today it will be just in time. What would you do? I'm definitely not a fan of giving vaccines unnecessarily, but I do also have to consider that if she contracts it, she will bring it home and expose 2 more dogs (Zuri and Violet). I had thought about taking Skye with me on the trip, but at this point that's my last choice and I don't have another sitter for her. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KF_in_Georgia Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I do the bordatella vaccine roughly every 6 months on Silver. I can't risk having her bring something home to Sam, who's a lot more fragile. (She's the meet and greet dog.) And I think the bordatella vaccine (squirted up the nose) has a low reaction rate. I'd do the vaccine (but I would do it anyway, so that may not help). But make sure asymptomatic Tyler is current on his bordatella vaccination if Skye's going to share the house with him. Supposedly, bordatella isn't a serious illness--unless the dog has another health issue going on. But I wouldn't want an unvaccinated dog in the house with a kennel-cough dog: that goes for now, putting Skye with Molly, and could apply later--putting Skye with Zuri and Violet. Quote Kathy and Q (CRT Qadeer from Fuzzy's Cannon and CRT Bonnie) and Jane (WW's Aunt Jane from Trent Lee and Aunt M); photos to come. Missing Silver (5.19.2005-10.27.2016), Tigger (4.5.2007-3.18.2016), darling Sam (5.10.2000-8.8.2013), Jacey-Kasey (5.19.2003-8.22.2011), and Oreo (1997-3.30.2006) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgomum Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Take her with you!Been wanting to meet your little girl Quote ~SAGE~ Save A Galgo EspañolPetra Postma Photography Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreytHoundPoet Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) I'd take her with me.Just an FYI: they can still get kennel cough even if vaccinated. Just like the flu, there are various strains. I've known dogs who were vaccinated pick it up at shows. I had a foster break here with kennel cough and the only one who got it was my puppy, who was vaccinated. Older dogs, puppies, and dogs with compromised immune systems are more likely to catch it, according to the 3 vets that I use and the vet tech and a vet I am friends with (I called them all when the foster broke with it since I had a puppy and seniors here). Edited July 17, 2013 by GreytHoundPoet Quote Masquerade Hounds & The Hounds of East Fairhaven & Ibizan Hound Club of the United States Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_daerr Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) The intranasal bordatella vaccine works immediately and has a real low reaction rate. The downside is that kennel cough is like the equivalent of the human flu virus. The vaccine only protects against the most common strains. I'd probably still get the vaccine, though. My guys go to training classes, dog parks, and the doggie pool, so we get one every six months. Neither of my guys has ever had kennel cough. Edited July 17, 2013 by a_daerr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Take her with you! Been wanting to meet your little girl I meant to say ahead of time no saying bring her with me just because you want to meet her. Honestly, I've gone back and forth and back and forth with it, but it will just make my life so much more difficult to bring her with me, especially considering that I'm not sure her crate will fit in the car with all of our other junk. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inugrey Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I would get the nasal deal today. I prefer preventative vaccination when you know you are going into a house with some sort of exposure. Why take the risk of your dog getting sick? Quote Colleen with Covey (Admirals Cove) and Rally (greyhound puppy)Missing my beloved boy INU (CJ Whistlindixie) my sweetest princess SALEM (CJ Little Dixie) and my baby girl ZOE (LR's Tara) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 How does it spread? There was a dog at the vet on Sat with it. I think I had a look of horror on my face when I was told to wait a minute before entering so the sick dog could get into a room. Quote Kari and the pups.Run free sweet Hana 9/21/08-9/12/10. Missing Sparks with every breath.Passion 10/16/02-5/25/17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerlinsMum Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I'd get her vaccinated with the intranasal. Seems like that's going to be the safest and easiest solution for you, for her and for Zuri and Violet. Good luck whatever you decide. Quote Kerry with Lupin in beautiful coastal Maine. Missing Pippin, my best friend and sweet little heart-healer 2013-2023 Also missing the best wizard in the world, Merlin, and my sweet 80lb limpet, Sagan, every single day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I'd just get her vaccinated. Really not something to agonize over. Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAJ2010 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 If it were my dog, I wouldn't worry too much and just trust their healthy immune system. But I have two really healthy pups who travel often. I'm going that means they are exposed to lots of cooties. LOL If it were my dog, I wouldn't worry too much and just trust their healthy immune system. But I have two really healthy pups who travel often. I'm going that means they are exposed to lots of cooties. LOL Quote ------ Jessica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 How does it spread? There was a dog at the vet on Sat with it. I think I had a look of horror on my face when I was told to wait a minute before entering so the sick dog could get into a room. It's airborne, but my vet felt that if Molly weren't actively coughing it were unlikely she would get it. I'd just get her vaccinated. Really not something to agonize over. Ha. Have you not "met" me? I agonize over everything, especially when it comes to my dogs. I actually decided on the vaccine, made the appt for tomorrow evening (earliest I could get in) then had a moment where it dawned on me that the intranasal vaccine is probably a live vaccine (confirmed it is) so now I'm back to wanting to skip it. We'll see how I feel in the morning. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greytkidsmom Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I'd agree with vaccination as well. We don't usually do our dogs every year as they aren't boarded. However, I work in human medicine and most unusually had a patient with a sputum that grew out the kennel cough variety of bordatella. My vet recommended having them all come in for boosters. She said that she had a personal experience in which she brought it back to one of her dogs while in vet school - an admittedly rare event. Since Lucas' recent event and daily vet/hospital visits I'm kind of glad we did it. The vaccine carries a relatively low risk and you can never predict the future... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inugrey Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 OMG should I call you Jenny McCarthy? Just do it. Quote Colleen with Covey (Admirals Cove) and Rally (greyhound puppy)Missing my beloved boy INU (CJ Whistlindixie) my sweetest princess SALEM (CJ Little Dixie) and my baby girl ZOE (LR's Tara) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 You'd start getting a fair bit of immunity from the shot by the time of your visit. Forget how long full immunity takes on average but you could probably look it up. I prefer the shot. I know you agonize over these things . I just figure in this case, more immunity is better than less, and bad reactions are really rare. Plus I've lived through kennel cough more than once. Won't willingly do it again . Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamsmom Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Yep, get the shot. Kennel Cough is not fun. I brought home a shelter dog to foster once and it spread through my dogs like wildfire. It was awful and expensive. Quote ~Beth, with a crazy mixed crew of misfits.~ Forever and Always missing and loving Steak, Carmen, Ivy, Isis, and Madi.Don't cry because it's ended, Smile because it happened.Before you judge me, try to keep an open mind, not everyone likes your taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 Okay, so basically are guys are saying that choosing to do the shot, rather than the nasal is a reasonable (better than doing nothing) choice? I am more comfortable with the shot since it's a dead vaccine personally. Whether it's rational or not, I would rather not expose Skye to a live vaccine days before she goes into a home where she will be exposed to the actual bacteria. I also have personal experience via friends where they did experience their dogs getting sick from the live vaccine, which adds to me hesitating. Here's the other big question though - vaccinating her doesn't mean she can't be a carrier to bring it back here, right? I mean, obviously if she actually contracts it and starts coughing, she'll be more contagious, but it doesn't guarantee she won't bring it back even if I do vaccinate, yes? Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamsmom Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 It's cheap, why not go ahead and vaccinate everyone? I do because of traveling. I have no idea about the carrier thing. Quote ~Beth, with a crazy mixed crew of misfits.~ Forever and Always missing and loving Steak, Carmen, Ivy, Isis, and Madi.Don't cry because it's ended, Smile because it happened.Before you judge me, try to keep an open mind, not everyone likes your taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissn333 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I would think that yes, she could still act as a carrier, unfortunately Quote Kristin in Moline, IL USA with Ozzie (MRL Crusin Clem), Clarice (Clarice McBones), Latte and Sage the IGs, and the kitties: Violet and Rose Lovingly Remembered: Sutra (Fliowa Sutra) 12/02/97-10/12/10, Pinky (Pick Me) 04/20/03-11/19/12, Fritz (Fritz Fire) 02/05/01 - 05/20/13, Ace (Fantastic Ace) 02/05/01 - 07/05/13, and Carrie (Takin the Crumbs) 05/08/99 - 09/04/13. A cure for cancer can't come soon enough.-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 It's cheap, why not go ahead and vaccinate everyone? I do because of traveling. I have no idea about the carrier thing. It's not really cheap here. The price ranged from $60 at my own vet to $38 at the place where Molly was seen where I convinced them to do the vaccine without charging is any vet or tech fee, but I don't know if they'd do that for all of my dogs. If I just took them all to my vet it would in theory cost me about $180. But more importantly I don't want to vaccinate any of my dogs unnecessarily. I've chosen not to vaccinate them for this intentionally and I don't want to start now if I don't have to. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elliemae421 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Working as a groomer in pet styling salon,we usually recommend it but don't make it mandatory. There are so many strains of it I get it for my dogs. You can walk anywhere and transfer it to your dog. I know someone it happened to that way and they were being cautious. There was a kennel/pet styling salon about 6 miles away had to shut down for 2 weeks due to that. If I would get one thing out of all vaccinations it would be Bordatella. It spreads very easily and quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JessieRahl Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Yeah, I do the Bordatella on Claire as well. Going on walks and passing other dogs, going to the dog park, visiting my mom and their dogs... it's just not worth the risk to me. Especially since I take her to the dog park; you can't trust that people do the right thing with their dogs there, but I'm not going to deny Claire a chance to run around in open space off lead over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burpdog Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 It's one of the few vaccines I get for my guys when I travel I can't believe the prices up east! Quote Diane & The Senior Gang Burpdog Biscuits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FastDogsOwnMe Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I never vaccinated for kennel cough, never have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamsmom Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Wow! It's only $10 here. Maybe you and the dogs need to take a trip to Texas . I don't do a lot of the "routine" vaccinations but this is one that I do. Quote ~Beth, with a crazy mixed crew of misfits.~ Forever and Always missing and loving Steak, Carmen, Ivy, Isis, and Madi.Don't cry because it's ended, Smile because it happened.Before you judge me, try to keep an open mind, not everyone likes your taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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