4My2Greys Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) I noticed recently that Beanie's lymph nodes under her jaw are swollen and hard. I checked her temp this morning and it is normal. What reasons are there for swollen lymph nodes, aside from infection or possibly cancer? http://forum.greytalk.com/public/style_emoticons/#EMO_DIR#/sad.png About 3-1/2 weeks ago I had her at the vet because she was not feeling well. Her temp then was close to 107°, but the odd thing was that her WBC count was not really high. My vet put her on Clavamox for a general antibiotic and doxycyclene in the event it was TBD related, because I've recently been battling a tick infestation. Her fever ran around 104°-105° for about 6 days. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with what is going on now, but wanted to note that in case it did. The soonest I can get into my regular vet to do a fine needle aspirate is next Thursday. If it happens to be what I fear it could be is time of the essence or does it really not matter? Edited December 9, 2012 by 4My2Greys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 It's most likely an infection, and in that case time *is* of the essence. If she's not on antibiotics now, I'd get her back on them. And make sure vet checks her mouth/teeth. Good luck! Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4My2Greys Posted November 29, 2012 Author Share Posted November 29, 2012 Thanks for that Batmom, I feel better about that. I'll call and see if I can get her into another vet there sooner for a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burpdog Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Any luck getting her in sooner? Quote Diane & The Senior Gang Burpdog Biscuits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4My2Greys Posted November 29, 2012 Author Share Posted November 29, 2012 Unfortunately all they could do was a day earlier, so I kept the appt with her regular vet. I'm off Monday for a dental appt if she acts like she isn't well then I'll try to get her in on a walk in basis. Right now she's eating fine so I don't know if its related to her teeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubcitypam Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 A couple of months ago Buddy would yelp when I reached down and patted his right jaw. Went to vet and the one lymph node was swollen. Couldn't see anything wrong dental or otherwise so they put him on Cipro for at least a couple of weeks - maybe more - can't remember exactly how long. Went away and he's been fine ever since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brindlehound Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Last spring, Magic had swollen lymph nodes and a swollen ankle. I was scared but it turned out to be Lyme Disease. He was on doxycyline (sp?) for about 3 and a half weeks. I hope Beanie turns out to be OK. Quote Carol, missing Magic (1/5/01 - 4/15/15) but welcoming Fuzzy's Joy Behar (Joy) into my life on 5/31/15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4My2Greys Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 A couple of months ago Buddy would yelp when I reached down and patted his right jaw. Went to vet and the one lymph node was swollen. Couldn't see anything wrong dental or otherwise so they put him on Cipro for at least a couple of weeks - maybe more - can't remember exactly how long. Went away and he's been fine ever since. These are the kind of things I like to hear . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Have you checked the other nodes? Popliteal, pre scapular, axilla--are common nodes worth checking (behind the knee, in front of shoulder and armpit). Fingers crossed its an infection or tbd (Ehrichia). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4My2Greys Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 I was able to find and feel the submandibular, prescapular and popliteal. The submandibular and popliteal were easy to find and felt about the size of a grape. Tbd could definitely be a possibility considering the problem I've had with ticks and that was with all of them on Advantix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4My2Greys Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 I got the pathology report Friday. It came back as high grade lymphoma . Getting two cancer diagnoses within a 6 month period is rather wearing on the soul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Oh no. I'm so sorry to hear this news. My heart goes out to you. Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houndtime Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I am so sorry to read this. Quote Irene Ullmann w/Flying Odin and Mama Mia in Lower Delaware Angels Brandy, John E, American Idol, Paul, Fuzzy and Shine Handcrafted Greyhound and Custom Clocks http://www.houndtime.com Zoom Doggies-Racing Coats for Racing Greyhounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OurLacyandJax Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Please accept my deepest sadness in hearing this news..we are equally burdened by your pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45MPHK9 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I'm so sorry to read your sad news, Judy. Sending you a hug from all of us here. Quote Tricia with Kyle, our senior mutt dog Always missing Murray Maldives, Bee Wiseman, River, Hopper, Kaia, and Holly Oaks Holly“You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.“ -Bob Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgrey Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Oh no! I'm so sorry to hear this. Quote Cynthia, & Cristiano, galgoAlways in my heart: Frostman Newdawn Frost, Keno Jet Action & Chloe (NGA racing name unknown), Irys (galgo), Hannah (weim), Cruz (galgo), & Carly CW Your Charming Princess http://www.greyhound-data.com/d?i=1018857 "It came to me that every time I lose a dog they take a piece of my heart with them. And every new dog who comes into my life, gifts me with a piece of their heart. If I live long enough, all the components of my heart will be dog, and I will become as generous and loving as they are." -- Unknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8kids Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Ok take a deep breath! My Grace, I rescued last Aug and knew when I brought her home in my heart she had cancer b/c I could see her swollen glands on her face and by her shoulder blades I could feel them. The vet, who had done bloodwork prior to me getting her, said it was normal. I brought her in and he thought it was an infection, redid the bloodwork and gave me antibiotics. I didn't give her the meds b/c I knew, being a cancer survivor myself and putting one down w/osteo earlier in the yr. I asked him to do a biopsy and it came back positive. Took her to the oncologist I used w/my other girl and started treatment about a month after her bloodwork. She was in stage 3 meaning it was in her whole body. I contacted OSU and they sent the 3 of the 4 meds that the Wisconsin Univ protocol uses. There is a vet I since found out, here in IL who tweaked the WU protocol and has had even better results. I can find out that information for you. The chemo treatments were from Oct to April with having to skip a few wks b/c of her blood levels. They may put her on prednisone when she starts to help the chemo at that point, and oh she will have to pee and drink a lot. I hope she hasn't had steroids lately b/c that can change the effect of the chemo. I am happy to say after the 3rd treatment her lymph nodes where normal and its been 13 months since starting the treatment and she is in remission. I will say I have cut down dramatically on her carbs, and do no grain kibble. and got her on natural supplements now to help her immune system. I will look at some of my books I used for reference and what supplements I did give her during treatment, have to be careful what to give due to wanting assist the chemo vs block its benefit. I will pass that on. For anyone reading this one supplement that I HIGHLY recommend to help prevent CA is tumeric. I got a good brand of the spice vs the capsules and give it to my girls every day in their food. If you have any ?s PM me. I know how overwelming it is. I also was unemployed when this happened, and not enough time to even get her on insurance. My rescue group was awesome and did fundraisers for her, even a middle school donated their $ from a fundraiser for her treatments. There is hope, and you got it early. My vet was surprised I got it this early. I'm in the med field so I look for abnormalities. I also believe it was her vaccinations that caused this to exascerbate for the vet wouldn't have given her the shots if her felt her glands. She got all her shots since just coming up from the breeder at that visit and spayed. Very stressful on the immune system. So there is hope...pray and your friends and family will give you support. Lymphoma is the one CA that has high success rates! Hugs to you! Remember to breath and give Beanie a kiss from me! Quote Kathy, Bo (SK's Bozo), and Angels Storm (Greys Big Storm), Grace (Rise to Glory) and Sky(Greys Sky Dove),My dog believes I go to work for their food and treats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHead Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 So sorry for that news Hoping and wishing you can find a successful treatment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickiesmom Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Judy I am so sorry. I hope there is a way to send this into remission, but no matter what, sending good thoughts and lots of hugs to both of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighsayer Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I'm sorry to hear this news. Hope you can get treatment started soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhead Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I'm very sorry you're facing this, and I hope there's hope. Quote Mary with Jumper Jack (2/17/11) and angels Shane (PA's Busta Rime, 12/10/02 - 10/14/16) and Spencer (Dutch Laser, 11/25/00 - 3/29/13). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4My2Greys Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 Thank you everyone for your replies. If you would please keep Beanie in your thoughts that we might achieve remission. Ok take a deep breath! My Grace, I rescued last Aug and knew when I brought her home in my heart she had cancer b/c I could see her swollen glands on her face and by her shoulder blades I could feel them. The vet, who had done bloodwork prior to me getting her, said it was normal. I brought her in and he thought it was an infection, redid the bloodwork and gave me antibiotics. I didn't give her the meds b/c I knew, being a cancer survivor myself and putting one down w/osteo earlier in the yr. I asked him to do a biopsy and it came back positive. Took her to the oncologist I used w/my other girl and started treatment about a month after her bloodwork. She was in stage 3 meaning it was in her whole body. I contacted OSU and they sent the 3 of the 4 meds that the Wisconsin Univ protocol uses. There is a vet I since found out, here in IL who tweaked the WU protocol and has had even better results. I can find out that information for you. The chemo treatments were from Oct to April with having to skip a few wks b/c of her blood levels. They may put her on prednisone when she starts to help the chemo at that point, and oh she will have to pee and drink a lot. I hope she hasn't had steroids lately b/c that can change the effect of the chemo. I am happy to say after the 3rd treatment her lymph nodes where normal and its been 13 months since starting the treatment and she is in remission. I will say I have cut down dramatically on her carbs, and do no grain kibble. and got her on natural supplements now to help her immune system. I will look at some of my books I used for reference and what supplements I did give her during treatment, have to be careful what to give due to wanting assist the chemo vs block its benefit. I will pass that on. For anyone reading this one supplement that I HIGHLY recommend to help prevent CA is tumeric. I got a good brand of the spice vs the capsules and give it to my girls every day in their food. If you have any ?s PM me. I know how overwelming it is. I also was unemployed when this happened, and not enough time to even get her on insurance. My rescue group was awesome and did fundraisers for her, even a middle school donated their $ from a fundraiser for her treatments. There is hope, and you got it early. My vet was surprised I got it this early. I'm in the med field so I look for abnormalities. I also believe it was her vaccinations that caused this to exascerbate for the vet wouldn't have given her the shots if her felt her glands. She got all her shots since just coming up from the breeder at that visit and spayed. Very stressful on the immune system. So there is hope...pray and your friends and family will give you support. Lymphoma is the one CA that has high success rates! Hugs to you! Remember to breath and give Beanie a kiss from me! Kathy, thank you very much for this post. I would love to have any information you can share, whether it be about supplements or chemo. All of her glands are affected so that would also put her at stage 3. I've already changed her diet to what Bruiser, diagnosed with HSA in June, is eating, a homecooked diet of 75% beef and 25% blend of vegetables. I am using no carbs. We are starting chemo Tuesday using I believe the Wisconsin protocol, but would be very interested in learning about the tweeks to it. She started the prednisone yesterday, so far she hasn't been drinking like I would expect her to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remolacha Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I am so sorry to hear the diagnosis. I have no personal experience, but i have known of many dogs with this particular form of cancer that achieve remission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valencia Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) My first girl had Lymphoma, she did really well on prednisone. Chemo has great remission rates. I'll keep Beanie in my thoughts. Edited December 9, 2012 by Valencia Quote Shannon, mom to Shae, Jesse James and Linus the Chinese Cresteds,and bridge angels Sydney Sue and Stewart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4My2Greys Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 I'll keep Beanie in my thoughts. As I will Stewart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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