krissy Posted August 24, 2012 Author Share Posted August 24, 2012 And just talked to foster mom... owner is refusing to allow an adoption trial. So I guess we're waiting until next summer. BF actually sounded a little disappointed. Quote Kristie and the Apex Agility Greyhounds: Kili (ATChC AgMCh Lakilanni Where Eagles Fly RN IP MSCDC MTRDC ExS Bronze ExJ Bronze ) and Kenna (Lakilanni Kiss The Sky RN MADC MJDC AGDC AGEx AGExJ). Waiting at the Bridge: Retired racer Summit (Bbf Dropout) May 5, 2005-Jan 30, 2019 Like us on Facebook! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 And just talked to foster mom... owner is refusing to allow an adoption trial. So I guess we're waiting until next summer. BF actually sounded a little disappointed. Not that it matters, but I'm confused. Is she a return? Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissy Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 No. Story goes like this. "Foster Mom" rescued Stella as a 12 week old pup. She didn't go into details but from what she told me it sounded like dog was being neglected as opposed to abused. She homed the pup to a friend of hers. The friend now (2.5 years later) cannot afford to keep the dog. Foster mom had told him to return Stella to her if there was ever an issue. So he sent Stella back to her. Foster mom has an elderly Lab and lives with her parents. The parents gave her a deadline for finding a home for this dog. The deadline passed so she sent Stella back to the owner while continuing to help search for a new home. Foster mom is also paying half the food bill for Stella because the owner can't afford to even feed her. Which explains why she isn't spayed or on heartworm prevention. But an adoption trial is unfair. Well I can't fault him too much for trying to do what's best for the dog, even if I disagree. Quote Kristie and the Apex Agility Greyhounds: Kili (ATChC AgMCh Lakilanni Where Eagles Fly RN IP MSCDC MTRDC ExS Bronze ExJ Bronze ) and Kenna (Lakilanni Kiss The Sky RN MADC MJDC AGDC AGEx AGExJ). Waiting at the Bridge: Retired racer Summit (Bbf Dropout) May 5, 2005-Jan 30, 2019 Like us on Facebook! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandiandwe Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I just wanted to ask about the above post. Why is an adoption trial unfair? My group has a mandatory two week trial for all hounds to make sure it all works out. It seems to me to be fairer to have something temporary to make sure that all is well rather than a permanent situation which might not be right for anyone. Are trials uncommon in the States/ Canada/ elsewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHead Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Wow, I would say they are pretty crazy for not allowing a trial period. Especially considering the situation and the fact that you had plans to put this dog in agility and training. I have adopted from groups before and they have set it up as a "foster." Basically that means you are technically fostering the animal but if it fits into your family you have first dibs on adopting. Otherwise you keep it as a foster volunteer unless someone else adopts. I would have thought they would be thrilled to have some interest, as the situation now doesn't sound very ideal. Maybe she will think about it or get desperate and call you back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissy Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 I just wanted to ask about the above post. Why is an adoption trial unfair? My group has a mandatory two week trial for all hounds to make sure it all works out. It seems to me to be fairer to have something temporary to make sure that all is well rather than a permanent situation which might not be right for anyone. Are trials uncommon in the States/ Canada/ elsewhere? Adoption trials and foster-to-adopt are very common up here with rescues (not so much with shelters I find), but this is a private "adoption". I got the foster mom's info from the local humane society where she had left her contact info, but the shelter is not involved otherwise. Wow, I would say they are pretty crazy for not allowing a trial period. Especially considering the situation and the fact that you had plans to put this dog in agility and training. I have adopted from groups before and they have set it up as a "foster." Basically that means you are technically fostering the animal but if it fits into your family you have first dibs on adopting. Otherwise you keep it as a foster volunteer unless someone else adopts. I would have thought they would be thrilled to have some interest, as the situation now doesn't sound very ideal. Maybe she will think about it or get desperate and call you back. The foster mom was beyond THRILLED when I called her to say I would take her on a two week trial. I said I was pretty sure she would work out but since I had never had a high energy dog and because the safety of my rabbits are top priority, I couldn't commit without seeing her on a daily basis to make sure she was a good fit. Foster mom thought that was totally reasonable. The original owner however doesn't think it is fair to bounce the dog around. I'm not sure why he has a problem with an adoption trial since it shows I'm being responsible and trying everything in my power to make sure this dog will work out. They previously gave this dog to a family with 4 young children who said they wanted to adopt her and keep her forever. Foster mom got a panicked phone call 3 days later after they had kept her exclusively in their garage and she growled at their 4 year old who pulled her ears. So having been through that experience I'm not sure why the owner thinks there's a difference between an adoption trial and an adoption. As far as I'm concerned, every adoption is technically on trial for the first 2 weeks anyway. I have a feeling I might get a call when they can't find anyone else willing to take a young, high energy BC that isn't spayed. Foster mom already told me that not being spayed has been a huge problem. People call and as soon as they hear she's not spayed they don't even want to meet the dog. Quote Kristie and the Apex Agility Greyhounds: Kili (ATChC AgMCh Lakilanni Where Eagles Fly RN IP MSCDC MTRDC ExS Bronze ExJ Bronze ) and Kenna (Lakilanni Kiss The Sky RN MADC MJDC AGDC AGEx AGExJ). Waiting at the Bridge: Retired racer Summit (Bbf Dropout) May 5, 2005-Jan 30, 2019 Like us on Facebook! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Yeah, that's just ridiculous although I imagine perhaps the owner has cold feet since the previous "adoption". I wonder if he doesn't understand that you're actually likely to be a very committed adopter assuming it's a good fit. I've learned that in my effort to be thorough/prepared/really think things through before I make a serious commitment, it often comes across to others as me being really uncertain or unlikely to stick to the commitment. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LindsaySF Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I think sometimes people assume that those wanting a trial visit are not committed to the dog, when in reality it's usually the opposite, those wanting a trial period have really thought about it and want to make sure everything works out before making it official. Why are they not getting her spayed beforehand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubcitypam Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 They either walk well or I kick butt and take names for Santa Claus :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissy Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 Why are they not getting her spayed beforehand? The owner can't even afford to feed her, no way he has the money to spay her. Unfortunately that makes her a really hard sell to pretty much anyone else. Or someone won't care because they have no intention of having her spayed. Quote Kristie and the Apex Agility Greyhounds: Kili (ATChC AgMCh Lakilanni Where Eagles Fly RN IP MSCDC MTRDC ExS Bronze ExJ Bronze ) and Kenna (Lakilanni Kiss The Sky RN MADC MJDC AGDC AGEx AGExJ). Waiting at the Bridge: Retired racer Summit (Bbf Dropout) May 5, 2005-Jan 30, 2019 Like us on Facebook! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandiandwe Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 My flabber is officially gasted here! Seriously, the 'owner' cannot afford to feed the dog. He can't afford to get her spayed. He can't keep her. Why on earth does he have ANY say in what home the dog goes to as long as it's a good one? Wanders away muttering angrily under breath..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwnedBySummer Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 My flabber is officially gasted here! Seriously, the 'owner' cannot afford to feed the dog. He can't afford to get her spayed. He can't keep her. Why on earth does he have ANY say in what home the dog goes to as long as it's a good one? Wanders away muttering angrily under breath..... I know, it sounds weird. I don't understand why the "owner" has any say, either. Once they sign their dog over to a shelter or rescue group... aren't they out of the picture? I'm assuming there is a group/organization involved because the dog is in foster care. Quote Lisa B. My beautiful Summer - to her forever home May 1, 2010 Summer Certified therapy dog team with St. John Ambulance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissy Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 My flabber is officially gasted here! Seriously, the 'owner' cannot afford to feed the dog. He can't afford to get her spayed. He can't keep her. Why on earth does he have ANY say in what home the dog goes to as long as it's a good one? Wanders away muttering angrily under breath..... I know, it sounds weird. I don't understand why the "owner" has any say, either. Once they sign their dog over to a shelter or rescue group... aren't they out of the picture? I'm assuming there is a group/organization involved because the dog is in foster care. There is no rescue involved. This is a private adoption. "Foster mom" is the woman who originally rescued this dog as a puppy from a neglectful home. She rehomed Stella to a friend (the current owner). She told the owner that if he ever could not keep Stella for any reason to return the dog to her instead of taking her to a shelter. He did so but she is now temporarily living with her parents who wouldn't let her keep the dog in their house for more than a month. That month expired so she sent Stella back to her originally owner but is continuing to help him look for a home for the dog as well as paying for half the food bill. He literally can't afford to feed this dog. Unfortunately because the dog is still his he can say no to the adoption trial. I know for a fact that foster mom tried to reason with him but he thinks he knows what's best for the dog so.... Quote Kristie and the Apex Agility Greyhounds: Kili (ATChC AgMCh Lakilanni Where Eagles Fly RN IP MSCDC MTRDC ExS Bronze ExJ Bronze ) and Kenna (Lakilanni Kiss The Sky RN MADC MJDC AGDC AGEx AGExJ). Waiting at the Bridge: Retired racer Summit (Bbf Dropout) May 5, 2005-Jan 30, 2019 Like us on Facebook! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Sounds like "foster mom" needs to dish out some tough love, especially if she's paying for the dog's food. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwnedBySummer Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) Oh, I see. I didn't quite follow all that before. Too bad Stella is in the man's house 'cause otherwise the foster mom could have just proceeded with the adoption trial. The man doesn't sound too bright. I hope the poor pup eventually gets a good home. ETA: If he can't feed her... should the dog not be taken away from him? It doesn't sound like a good environment for Stella. Edited September 2, 2012 by OwnedBySummer Quote Lisa B. My beautiful Summer - to her forever home May 1, 2010 Summer Certified therapy dog team with St. John Ambulance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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