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Hlmmmm..I wonder. Is it possible that dogs can be sensitive to white chicken meat..that is cooked well?

Trying to find an answer..which could be staring at me..LOL

Any ideas..anyone? Thanks!

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Rainy is allergic or has a large intolerance (whatever phrase you want to use) to cooked chicken. Raw chicken is 100% fine.

 

Turkey is fine cooked or raw, and cooked eggs are fine too


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I believe a dog, like a person, can be allergic to just about anything.

 

Contrary to what people seem to believe, most food allergies are to the protein source of the food, not the grain source. At least according to the multiple vets I've talked to about this.



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Yep, dog can be allergic or intolerant (2 different things) to anything.

 

It isn't possible to be *allergic* to the cooked item but not the raw one -- an allergy response is to denatured proteins, and those are the same between the 2 forms. It is possible for very dried-out portions of overcooked items to not be digested well. And it's certainly possible to be allergic or intolerant to chicken-based dog foods or seasoned chicken leftovers from people meals but not to plain chicken. (It's also possible, as Houndtime notes below, to be allergic to the raw item but not allergic to the cooked one; that doesn't happen often, tho.)

 

An allergy response is usually to proteins, but in this sense "protein" can be the protein component of a potato, not just the protein component of meat.

 

I had a pup who was intolerant to chicken in any significant quantity. A bite was OK, chicken fat in dry dog food was OK, a handful of chicken or chicken-based dog food was not OK.

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Two of my four dogs (one now at the bridge) have problems with chicken. They can eat small amounts of raw chicken, eggs are fine, chicken as an ingredient in dog food is ok as long as it isn't the primary protein. Chicken as a regular, main ingredient in their diet, bad news! I would call it "sensitive" to chicken, rather than allergic, but I am sure an allergy is possible. I don't think they could be allergic to just the white meat, though.

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I have a hound who is sensitive to chicken. His nice white socked covered feet turned bright red when he I was feeding him cooked chicken with his trout and sweet potato kibble. I changed to turkey and his white socks are back to being white.

 

I also had two c-o-c-k-e-r spaniels who were both allergic to chicken. I switched them to a vegetarian kibble and canned food and their chronic ear infections cleared right up within 2 or so weeks. This was done on the advice of a Vet Tech who was very food-to-chronic conditions savvy. It was miraculous actually as we had been fighting the chronic ear infections for over a year and a half.

 

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Angie is very sensitive to chicken. The slightest amount will give her the big D.

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Yep, dog can be allergic or intolerant (2 different things) to anything.

 

It isn't possible to be *allergic* to the exact same item in different form (for example, raw vs. cooked) -- an allergy response is to denatured proteins, and those are the same between the 2 forms. It is possible for very dried-out portions of overcooked items to not be digested well. And it's certainly possible to be allergic or intolerant to chicken-based dog foods or seasoned chicken leftovers from people meals but not to plain chicken.

 

An allergy response is usually to proteins, but in this sense "protein" can be the protein component of a potato, not just the protein component of meat.

 

I had a pup who was intolerant to chicken in any significant quantity. A bite was OK, chicken fat in dry dog food was OK, a handful of chicken or chicken-based dog food was not OK.

 

I don't normally like to differ with people, especially when it is not a field that I know a lot about, but it is possible to be allergic to something in two different forms. Our grandson is extremely allergic to raw eggs but not cooked (very well cooked) eggs. If he touches raw egg, he will immediately break out into hives; touches his eyes, they will swell and close. If the egg isn't fully cooked, his throat could close. He cannot get immunization for certain diseases because they are egg based. I don't mean to hijack the thread, but just to offer something from left field.

 

That being said, Fuzzy gets extremely gassey on poultry based foods, more so chicken than turkey. Raw or cooked is the same.

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I don't normally like to differ with people, especially when it is not a field that I know a lot about, but it is possible to be allergic to something in two different forms.

 

Ah. It *is* possible (though doesn't happen often) to have allergy symptoms to a raw food but not the same food when it is cooked. AFAIK this happens mainly with egg allergy in people.

 

The reverse isn't true. Usually here people are talking about being allergic to the cooked item but not the raw one, which isn't possible.


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Another timely thread! Thank you GT! We are struggling with ongoing soft stools and D in Paige. Vet thinks its food related, so she's been on chicken and rice. No change. Chicken and pasta, a small improvement.... so maybe if we try eliminating the chicken........ Do I substitute it with roo meat? Beef?

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My Larry is very sensitive/allergic to chicken - if he has just a taste he'll get massive diarrhea. He is also sensitive to noodles but, not as much as chicken.

 

I usually feed meat, rice/oatmeal, and veggies. I also give appropriate supplements for calcium and vitamins.

 

Most commercial foods have chicken and if not chicken, then they have chicken fat or "unspecified fat". There are a few limited ingredient foods like the Natural Balance venison and sweet potato that do not have any chicken. There is also Solid Gold Beef & Barley (not limited ingredient though) which has a decent ingredient list but I have found it to be too rich for greyhounds.

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Another timely thread! Thank you GT! We are struggling with ongoing soft stools and D in Paige. Vet thinks its food related, so she's been on chicken and rice. No change. Chicken and pasta, a small improvement.... so maybe if we try eliminating the chicken........ Do I substitute it with roo meat? Beef?

 

I would probably try beef to start with unless it's easier/cheaper for you to use roo meat. Note also that if you use rice, make sure you cook it till it's very soft. I usually add @ 50% more water than if cooking for people.


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I don't know what to do anymore,

My sensitive Grey has been on at least 5 different foods in 4 months. I believe she is allergic to Chicken, peanut butter, corn, and soy and sensitive to Salmon. I have tried Lamb and Rice and still has soft stool, she had hook worm in the past and will check again for the 6th time next week.  She was on Grain free when i adopted her from a foster, and her gut was a total mess.  I started with Purina, Hills, Natural Balance and now trying NB in Salmon...bad for her.  She doesn't get any treats, and if they are given to her by a stranger...she gets sick.

Can anyone give me suggestions?  I just don't want to mess with RAW at this time. 

What is your best kibble for sensitive Grey?

Thank you, Sandy


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11 hours ago, BlissfulSandy said:

I don't know what to do anymore,

My sensitive Grey has been on at least 5 different foods in 4 months. I believe she is allergic to Chicken, peanut butter, corn, and soy and sensitive to Salmon. I have tried Lamb and Rice and still has soft stool, she had hook worm in the past and will check again for the 6th time next week.  She was on Grain free when i adopted her from a foster, and her gut was a total mess.  I started with Purina, Hills, Natural Balance and now trying NB in Salmon...bad for her.  She doesn't get any treats, and if they are given to her by a stranger...she gets sick.

Can anyone give me suggestions?  I just don't want to mess with RAW at this time. 

What is your best kibble for sensitive Grey?

Thank you, Sandy

Rather than putting your question in another person's post - start your own topic as you'll get more responses.

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On 12/13/2019 at 1:23 PM, BlissfulSandy said:

I don't know what to do anymore,

It just may be possible that if you get some high strength Aloe Vera tablets (like the Aloe Pura brand) that you could start to get that digestive tract inflammatory response back under control.  Transition to any new food gradually. Perhaps try a Turkey & Rice kibble and top it with some canned tripe wet food.  I needed to do this after Peggy nearly died a couple of years ago from eating gone-off chicken.    Royal Canin vet Gastro Intestinal cans also helped at the outset.

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On 12/13/2019 at 5:23 AM, BlissfulSandy said:

I don't know what to do anymore,

My sensitive Grey has been on at least 5 different foods in 4 months. I believe she is allergic to Chicken, peanut butter, corn, and soy and sensitive to Salmon. I have tried Lamb and Rice and still has soft stool, she had hook worm in the past and will check again for the 6th time next week.  She was on Grain free when i adopted her from a foster, and her gut was a total mess.  I started with Purina, Hills, Natural Balance and now trying NB in Salmon...bad for her.  She doesn't get any treats, and if they are given to her by a stranger...she gets sick.

Can anyone give me suggestions?  I just don't want to mess with RAW at this time. 

What is your best kibble for sensitive Grey?

Thank you, Sandy

Several things...

How do you know your greyhound is intolerant of all these foods?  Just because she has had reactions to a food with this in it?  Unless you've done a serious food trial under the advice of a vet, you're just guessing, and you could be doing more harm than good switching foods so often.  

Unless you've hada series of THREE negative fecal tests, spaced at least two weeks apart, it's highly likely your dog still has hooks.  Please look at the hookworm threads in the Health and Medical section.  This current strain of the parasite is particularly resistant to standard treatments and often requires extensive months of treatment to fully clear them.  But you need to try, because hooks can destroy a dog's intestinal tract - and acts much like a food intolerance in symptoms - so MAKE SURE your dog is completely hook free.

TALK WITH YOUR VET!!!!!  BUt, IMO, this is what I would do:  Your best bet - since you have tried many commercial foods - is to retreat to a bland, home cooked diet.  Choose an easily available, relatively low fat, easily cooked protein source.  From your list above, I would suggest ground beef or tilapia.  Then add in a carb source - again from your list, I would select fortified pasta or oatmeal.  Nothing else - no additives, no treats, only medications approved by your vet.  Start with about a third of a cup of each, every two hours.  If her stools firm up and she begins to feel better, then you have at least part of your answer.  She can remain on this diet for quite a while.  You can increase the portions until she's eating  a cup of each ingredient every three to four hours.

If she doesn't get better then you probably have a bigger issue and really need the advice of a specialist. 

And I will add this because she's been on grain free food for an extended period of time - our boy's first indication of a heart issue was a long term case of loose stools that didn't get better with any treatment or food change.  Since she has been on a grain free diet, she is at greater risk for developing nutritional Dilated CardioMyeopathy - an extremely serious heart condition.  You should talk with your vet about exploring the possibility she could be a very sick dog because of this.


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On 12/13/2019 at 8:23 AM, BlissfulSandy said:

I don't know what to do anymore,

My sensitive Grey has been on at least 5 different foods in 4 months. I believe she is allergic to Chicken, peanut butter, corn, and soy and sensitive to Salmon. I have tried Lamb and Rice and still has soft stool, she had hook worm in the past and will check again for the 6th time next week.  She was on Grain free when i adopted her from a foster, and her gut was a total mess.  I started with Purina, Hills, Natural Balance and now trying NB in Salmon...bad for her.  She doesn't get any treats, and if they are given to her by a stranger...she gets sick.

Can anyone give me suggestions?  I just don't want to mess with RAW at this time. 

What is your best kibble for sensitive Grey?

Thank you, Sandy

What are your dogs symptoms?  Often food allergies will cause red, itchy skin +/- ear infections. If soft stool or diarrhea is present I highly recommend to stop changing foods.  Ask your vet about prescribing Hills W/D.  It’s a high fiber/low fat food.  Fat is hard to digest often producing soft stool.  The fiber will bulk the stool and slow down the gi tract.

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my Poodle mix is HIGHLY allergic to organic white chicken breast. She vomited for over a year before I figured it out. I was poisoning her. 


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On 12/15/2019 at 12:29 AM, greysmom said:

Several things...

How do you know your greyhound is intolerant of all these foods?  Just because she has had reactions to a food with this in it?  Unless you've done a serious food trial under the advice of a vet, you're just guessing, and you could be doing more harm than good switching foods so often.  

Unless you've hada series of THREE negative fecal tests, spaced at least two weeks apart, it's highly likely your dog still has hooks.  Please look at the hookworm threads in the Health and Medical section.  This current strain of the parasite is particularly resistant to standard treatments and often requires extensive months of treatment to fully clear them.  But you need to try, because hooks can destroy a dog's intestinal tract - and acts much like a food intolerance in symptoms - so MAKE SURE your dog is completely hook free.

TALK WITH YOUR VET!!!!!  BUt, IMO, this is what I would do:  Your best bet - since you have tried many commercial foods - is to retreat to a bland, home cooked diet.  Choose an easily available, relatively low fat, easily cooked protein source.  From your list above, I would suggest ground beef or tilapia.  Then add in a carb source - again from your list, I would select fortified pasta or oatmeal.  Nothing else - no additives, no treats, only medications approved by your vet.  Start with about a third of a cup of each, every two hours.  If her stools firm up and she begins to feel better, then you have at least part of your answer.  She can remain on this diet for quite a while.  You can increase the portions until she's eating  a cup of each ingredient every three to four hours.

If she doesn't get better then you probably have a bigger issue and really need the advice of a specialist. 

And I will add this because she's been on grain free food for an extended period of time - our boy's first indication of a heart issue was a long term case of loose stools that didn't get better with any treatment or food change.  Since she has been on a grain free diet, she is at greater risk for developing nutritional Dilated CardioMyeopathy - an extremely serious heart condition.  You should talk with your vet about exploring the possibility she could be a very sick dog because of this.

I am now trying OLEWO Carrots and she had the best poop today, and taking her Tylan!  She is Natural Balance Lamb and Rice for now


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On 12/13/2019 at 7:31 PM, MaryJane said:

Rather than putting your question in another person's post - start your own topic as you'll get more responses.

 

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Vesa is a Red Petite, 60 lb., DOB 06/01/2016, Adopted 08/2019. Has chicken, peanut butter, psyllium husk allergies. She is fighting SID, Chronic Pancreatitis, Hook Worm Larval leak. She has itchy ears, pink blistery sores developing on her hocks and front ankles. anal glands congested.  She is currently on Roasted Turkey Breast, overcooked mashed Green Beans, Broccoli, Sweet Potatoes, Metronizadole, Tylan Powder.

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A vet fromm GA University gave me a very clean bland Diet, but she is still losing some weight.  I can probably increase a little more freshly roasted or boiled turkey breast.  She needs some calories. I know she will improve, just have to try to hang in here😢


Vesa is a Red Petite, 60 lb., DOB 06/01/2016, Adopted 08/2019. Has chicken, peanut butter, psyllium husk allergies. She is fighting SID, Chronic Pancreatitis, Hook Worm Larval leak. She has itchy ears, pink blistery sores developing on her hocks and front ankles. anal glands congested.  She is currently on Roasted Turkey Breast, overcooked mashed Green Beans, Broccoli, Sweet Potatoes, Metronizadole, Tylan Powder.

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Had quite a few dogs (fostered and/or adopted) which did not tolerate chicken or chicken kibble. They were all fine on beef based kibble and various brands of tinned dog food without chicken. I think this intolerance is more common than people realise but vets still often recommend chicken based meals for dogs having problems.


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Barney is allergic to any sort of chicken meat. He just starts scratching and chewing all over. I feed raw, so that takes chicken meat and organs off the table. He can handle 2-3 raw chicken feet daily, but they have no meat, just skin, bone and cartilage.


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My vet thought so today, and has asked me to take Peggy, who currently has another vomiting and diarrhea flare up, off it.  She has underlying kidney disease, but I think the culprit is more likely to be Giardia even though 2 stool samples didn't find it.

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