krissn333 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Just too too many So sorry to hear about Bee Wiseman, and terribly saddened that Nikki was lost so suddenly I just saw that another was diagnosed - Ronan...hopefully we'll see his family in here. I always knew that the odds would be stacked against me, having so many dogs. First Ace was diagnosed with leukemia, and then we got the dreaded osteo diagnosis with Sutra. Fritz, Carrie, and Pinky (and the iggies) are all fine. This is very morbid but somehow I just KNOW that it will be osteo that takes Fritz from me someday - I can just feel it in my bones (absolutely no pun intended). After Sutra, I am paranoid with every limp too. Sutra limped off and on for a good 3-4 months before I took him for xrays. Because it always got better and he'd return to normal, I thought he was just getting to be an old man (he always was MY "Old Man" ) - and he'd dislocated his shoulder in January when he fell off the couch, so I just figured he'd pushed too hard in the yard and irritated it. Usually a trip to the chiro and a day or two of Deramaxx would set him right again. Sure enough, that same shoulder that took the trauma when he fell off the couch is the one that got osteo. It's almost like the osteo was one of those glow sticks that you snap in half to get it to glow - disturb it and it comes to life Kristin in Moline, IL USA with Ozzie (MRL Crusin Clem), Clarice (Clarice McBones), Latte and Sage the IGs, and the kitties: Violet and Rose Lovingly Remembered: Sutra (Fliowa Sutra) 12/02/97-10/12/10, Pinky (Pick Me) 04/20/03-11/19/12, Fritz (Fritz Fire) 02/05/01 - 05/20/13, Ace (Fantastic Ace) 02/05/01 - 07/05/13, and Carrie (Takin the Crumbs) 05/08/99 - 09/04/13. A cure for cancer can't come soon enough.-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potomacpupsmom Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Bee Wiseman was diagnosed with osteo this week. We are devastated. Oh Tricia, I just saw this. I am so very sorry. Kathy Humans Kathy and Jim with our girls, Ivy (Carolina Spoon) and Cherry (Fly Cherry Pie) Missing our beautiful angel Breeze (Dighton Breeze) and angel Beka (BM Beko) - you are forever in our hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiggysMom Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 I am so sorry to hear about Nikki Simply heartbreaking. Wendy with Twiggy, fosterless while Twiggy's fighting the good fight, and Donnie & Aiden the kitties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45MPHK9 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 (edited) Post deleted. Edited August 31, 2011 by 45MPHK9 Tricia with Kyle, our senior mutt dog Always missing Murray Maldives, Bee Wiseman, River, Hopper, Kaia, and Holly Oaks Holly“You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.“ -Bob Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fandogs Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 (edited) Hello Tricia, I don't get on GT often, but wanted to say, first of all it was so very nice meeting you at Grapehounds, and of course meeting your wonderful Bee Wiseman. Now I am so very saddened to hear about her cancer, and about the resolve that once more must be called upon by us humans to deal with it in a loving way. She is a beautiful dog, and will remain whole, healthy and vital in my mind, regardless of how cruel the fates take over. I met you all on a happy day, on a fun occasion.. and that's where it will stay. We had a very thought provoking discussion at the restaurant,the evening that we met, after dinner.. don't know if you remember it, but is was primarily about osteo and then, Greyhound racing. That evening we were talking about the diagnosis of osteo, in general, of course, not specifically, on one of our dogs.. Today, this makes it all the harder. Please be certain that those who only got to meet you and Bee Wiseman that weekend, plus all the folks on GT, are with you in spirit and will be with you for support. I will pray for her to live long and suffer not at all. I'm sure your love will make whatever time remains happy, and loving. Please give Bee a hug from me. Regards Maxine (of the Hevener hounds) Edited August 19, 2011 by fandogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45MPHK9 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 (edited) Post deleted. Edited August 31, 2011 by 45MPHK9 Tricia with Kyle, our senior mutt dog Always missing Murray Maldives, Bee Wiseman, River, Hopper, Kaia, and Holly Oaks Holly“You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.“ -Bob Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queenwinniesmom Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Hello Tricia, I don't get on GT often, but wanted to say, first of all it was so very nice meeting you at Grapehounds, and of course meeting your wonderful Bee Wiseman. Now I am so very saddened to hear about her cancer, and about the resolve that once more must be called upon by us humans to deal with it in a loving way. She is a beautiful dog, and will remain whole, healthy and vital in my mind, regardless of how cruel the fates take over. I met you all on a happy day, on a fun occasion.. and that's where it will stay. We had a very thought provoking discussion at the restaurant,the evening that we met, after dinner.. don't know if you remember it, but is was primarily about osteo and then, Greyhound racing. That evening we were talking about the diagnosis of osteo, in general, of course, not specifically, on one of our dogs.. Today, this makes it all the harder. Please be certain that those who only got to meet you and Bee Wiseman that weekend, plus all the folks on GT, are with you in spirit and will be with you for support. I will pray for her to live long and suffer not at all. I'm sure your love will make whatever time remains happy, and loving. Please give Bee a hug from me. Regards Maxine (of the Hevener hounds) What a lovely post, very eloquently said, and very true, and I can only echo Maxine's words. I just saw the news of Bee Wiseman's diagnosis, and I am stunned. Given the blind randomness of this monster, I guess nothing should surprise us anymore. But Bee? Tricia, you've shared her with us so generously---her beauty, her humor, her pure joy (the pictures of her leaping straight up into the air are some of my very favorites)---it's so hard to comprehend. I have a favorite quote about lives measured not in time, but in grace, and the joy with which they are lived, and love they leave behind, and that so perfectly fits Bee. Tricia, I know that her time with you and Burke will be filled with that love for as many days or weeks or years that you have together. Sending hugs to you and your precious girl. Nancy, Mom to Evangelina and Kiva Missing Lacey, Patsy, Buster, my heart dog Nick, Winnie, Pollyanna, Tess, my precious Lydia, Calvin Lee, my angel butterfly Laila, and kitties Lily, Sam and Simon My Etsy shop: http://www.etsy.com/shop/Catsburgandhoundtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiggysMom Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Twiggy is doing very well today. They may send her home tomorrow morning. Everyone there tells me that she has been doing as well as any dog, and hasn't had any of the greyhound-specific issues they often see. She has been eating well which has been keeping her protein up, and doesn't have nearly as much edema as a result. Her mobility is good, and she is walking from the ICU to the visiting rooms just on a leash - no more sling! They also suggested that I work with the UIC vet program for her chemo, which is convenient for me, and OSU knows they have a good reputation (the chemo would still come from OSU). So, we may be taking a long drive tomorrow! Again, I am so sorry to hear of the others diagnosed this week. The situation is so individual with entirely unique circumstances. It makes it so much harder to figure which route is best. All I know is that each of us is making the right choice because we are doing it out of love for our dogs and with their best interests at heart. Thanks for checking on us and take care, everyone! Wendy with Twiggy, fosterless while Twiggy's fighting the good fight, and Donnie & Aiden the kitties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greysmom Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Twiggy!!!!!! Anybody know how Berkeley is doing? Hugs to everyone! Chris - Mom to: Felicity (DeLand), and Andi (Braska Pandora) siggy by Chris Harper, on Flickr Angels: Libby (Everlast), Dorie (Dog Gone Holly), Dude (TNJ VooDoo), Copper (Kid's Copper), Cash (GSI Payncash), Toni (LPH Cry Baby), Whiskey (KT's Phys Ed), Atom, Lilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roselle Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Twiggy is doing very well today. They may send her home tomorrow morning. Everyone there tells me that she has been doing as well as any dog, and hasn't had any of the greyhound-specific issues they often see. She has been eating well which has been keeping her protein up, and doesn't have nearly as much edema as a result. Her mobility is good, and she is walking from the ICU to the visiting rooms just on a leash - no more sling! They also suggested that I work with the UIC vet program for her chemo, which is convenient for me, and OSU knows they have a good reputation (the chemo would still come from OSU). So, we may be taking a long drive tomorrow! Again, I am so sorry to hear of the others diagnosed this week. The situation is so individual with entirely unique circumstances. It makes it so much harder to figure which route is best. All I know is that each of us is making the right choice because we are doing it out of love for our dogs and with their best interests at heart. Thanks for checking on us and take care, everyone! So happy to hear that Twiggy is doing so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greytpups Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Bee Wiseman was diagnosed with osteo this week. We are devastated. Tricia and Burke, my heart goes out to you. Jan with precious pups Emmy (Stormin J Flag) and Simon (Nitro Si) and Abbey Field. Missing my angels: Bailey Buffetbobleclair 11/11/98-17/12/09; Ben Task Rapid Wave 5/5/02-2/11/15; Brooke Glo's Destroyer 7/09/06-21/06/16 and Katie Crazykatiebug 12/11/06 -21/08/21. My blog about grief The reality is that you will grieve forever. You will not get over the loss of a loved one; you will learn to live with it. You will rebuild yourself around the loss you have suffered. You will be whole again but you will never be the same. Nor should you be the same, nor would you want to. ― Elisabeth Kübler-Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BauersMom Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Anybody know how Berkeley is doing? Berk's doing good! We're going to a M&G tomorrow to try to keep up with the "non-vet" trips out of the house. We won't stay long, but he'll love meeting up with other dogs. His thundershirt arrived today but I don't think it fits right. Drat. He's narrower in the shoulders, and even though they size by chest girth, I think it alters the fit. I was really hoping to have it for his next chemo visit on thursday. I've emailed them to see what we can do. With Buster Bloof (UCME Razorback 89B-51359) and Gingersnap Ginny (92D-59450). Missing Pepper, Berkeley, Ivy, Princess and Bauer at the bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllenEveBaz Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 We will fight it by giving Bee as many hugs, kisses, and belly rubs as she can stand.And we're all right there with you and the families of Twiggy, Berkeley, Dude, Charlie, and all the others. Ellen, with brindle Milo and the blonde ballerina, Gelsey remembering Eve, Baz, Scout, Romie, Nutmeg, and Jeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45MPHK9 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 (edited) Post deleted. Edited August 31, 2011 by 45MPHK9 Tricia with Kyle, our senior mutt dog Always missing Murray Maldives, Bee Wiseman, River, Hopper, Kaia, and Holly Oaks Holly“You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.“ -Bob Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIGreyLady Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Tricia - I Just saw this and am stunned!! Please give Miss Bee Wiseman some belly rubs from me and know that you are all in my thoughts and prayers. Mimi- mom to Burdette (KB's Burdette), Sophie (LL's Stupid Is) and bridge babies Kelsey (Kelso's Logo), Sterling (Cold B Tiger), Fritz, Tasha, Chloe and Molly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2Brindles Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Hello to all, and thank you for inviting me to the discussion. Since Ronan and I visited the vet on Thursday, my mind has been grappling with the ramifications of the diagnosis and how my husband and I should proceed from here. If you read the thread that I started, then you know that we plan on moving forward with palliative care after we see the specialist and get better x-rays (on Monday). My mind is reeling on how best to proceed even so. After a couple of years of getting long term sub assignments and per diem sub assignments, I finally got a regular teaching job a couple of weeks ago. I begin professional development this coming week and school starts the following week. While this is only part time, it takes me away from my house from 7:30-2:00 each day. My husband works longer hours, from 8-5 each day. Ronan is Ronan at the moment. He wants to run zoomies outside, cavort and gambol with his stuffies, and egg my other greyhound Molly into racing him. I am terrified that he will break the afflicted limb (his right front limb, as it happens)when I am not home. Both he and Molly have access to our fenced in yard via a doggy door so that they can let themselves out to pee during the day. How should I best proceed with palliative care? I do limit his activities now, but I agonize about what to do during the day when I am gone. Thus far his quality of life is not greatly affected. The outcome is a foregone conclusion; it's not a matter of if, but when, and how soon. Should I risk a catastrophic injury as his quality of life is still good? Should I set him free before he experiences greater pain? He trusts me with his life, but I do not trust myself. I want to act out of motives that are purely for his benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45MPHK9 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 (edited) Post deleted. Edited August 31, 2011 by 45MPHK9 Tricia with Kyle, our senior mutt dog Always missing Murray Maldives, Bee Wiseman, River, Hopper, Kaia, and Holly Oaks Holly“You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.“ -Bob Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinw Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 (edited) 2Brindles, I limited Phoenix's activity from the start, although I did let him run outside a bit. First thing I did was cover every bit of hardwood floor with rubbed backed mats to lessen the possibility of a fall. I did the same with the deck in the backyard. I also walked him more often than i put him in the backyard. By the time he was diagnosed, he was no longer going up and down my inside stairs, but if he was, I would have blocked it off with baby gates, once again to lessen the chance of a fall. One of the best bits of advice came from the last osteo thread. I live alone, and you said your husband works long hours. It was advised that I come up with a plan in case something happened, like a broken leg. How would I carry screaming, injured dog into my car? Who would help me? I think these are definitely points worth considering. Edited August 21, 2011 by robinw Xavi the galgo and Peter the cat. Missing Iker the galgo ?-Feb.9/19, Treasure (USS Treasure) April 12/01-May 6/13, Phoenix (Hallo Top Son) Dec.14/99-June 4/11 and Loca (Reko Swahili) Oct.9/95 - June 1/09, Allen the boss cat, died late November, 2021, age 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2Brindles Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 I keep Ronan and Molly gated in a room that has a dog door to a fenced-in area when I am not at home. The room is carpeted, so slips are less likely there. I am assuming that I will be gone between 4-5 hours a day; maybe they can "hold it" for that amount of time until I can let them both out? I will definitely stock up on rubber backed runners on the wood floors. I think I can reach out to my neighbors for help if I needed it in an emergency. I will reach out to them to ask about the possibility. I already block off the stairs during the day. Thanks for the advice Robin. Kristen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinw Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 If you think they could hold it, it might be a good idea to disable to doggie door. As you know, with osteo the bones can break so easily, and something could happen if they were running in the yard or something. Maybe I just worry too much, but it might reduce the risk of a broken leg. Xavi the galgo and Peter the cat. Missing Iker the galgo ?-Feb.9/19, Treasure (USS Treasure) April 12/01-May 6/13, Phoenix (Hallo Top Son) Dec.14/99-June 4/11 and Loca (Reko Swahili) Oct.9/95 - June 1/09, Allen the boss cat, died late November, 2021, age 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiggysMom Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 To Ronan's family, I am so sorry for the diagnosis. I understand how hard it is to wrestle with options (and the lack of good options). Could Ronan be crated while you are at work? It sounds like he isn't used to it, but it could help protect him if he doesn't get worked up in the crate. If he he gets stressed or tries to break out of a crate, then this would definitely not be a good plan for him. The small room you have sounds like it is a good option. If you haven't already, you might want to look into pamidronate treatments as part of his palliative care. It is a bone-building drug like Fosamax for humans which can both help prevent a pathological fracture and relieve pain. I did consider this route for Twiggy, but my fear of her breaking her leg while I was at a long day of work was just too great. (And many, many other factors fell into place for us). I'll be keeping you all in my thoughts. Wendy with Twiggy, fosterless while Twiggy's fighting the good fight, and Donnie & Aiden the kitties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiggysMom Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 We are home!! Twiggy is doing very well. When we brought her out to the car this morning, we were figuring out the best way to get her in, but Twiggy already knew - just hop in like usual! She does scream out usually when she gets up (from fear/pain/surprise? probably a combo of all the above). But has only done so twice today. Twiggy also is able to go up and down the multiple sets of 2-3 steps that I have to access my first floor room. She does them all by herself - the sling just seems to make it more awkward for her. OSU said that she is progressing much faster than they usually see. So, for now, all is well in Twiggyland. Wendy with Twiggy, fosterless while Twiggy's fighting the good fight, and Donnie & Aiden the kitties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45MPHK9 Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 (edited) Post deleted. Edited August 31, 2011 by 45MPHK9 Tricia with Kyle, our senior mutt dog Always missing Murray Maldives, Bee Wiseman, River, Hopper, Kaia, and Holly Oaks Holly“You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.“ -Bob Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinw Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Great news, Wendy! Xavi the galgo and Peter the cat. Missing Iker the galgo ?-Feb.9/19, Treasure (USS Treasure) April 12/01-May 6/13, Phoenix (Hallo Top Son) Dec.14/99-June 4/11 and Loca (Reko Swahili) Oct.9/95 - June 1/09, Allen the boss cat, died late November, 2021, age 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2Brindles Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Happy to read the good news about Twiggy! I will take the info about the bone-building drug and the other painkillers with me when I meet with the specialist on Monday. Ronan had a good day today; he is a champion sleeper normally and when I took him out my husband had got the wading pool out and he enjoyed laying in his pool and then doing some zoomies to dry off He is feeling much better since he started the Rimadyl, but I am keen to get some better meds as well. He does not do well in a crate unfortunately; I have used our small back room as a large crate since Ronan and Molly first came to live with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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