dante2zoe Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Hopefully, I am just being impatient. I purchased a Patio Pacific dog door for sliding glass doors. It has been installed for 12 days now. I can get them to go through if I hold the flap up. If it is closed or not held up high enough, they are afraid to go through. I have used high value treats to encourage them through the door and we do this daily, progressively lowering the flap. I do let it run down their backs as they go through. There is a good magnetic seal on the flap and it does require a little umph to get it open. However, my cat is able to use the door without assistance. Are there any other tricks to try or am I not giving them enough time? They are only allowed out in the yard through the dog door now. There are no other alternatives for them. I also feed them outside, so they know good things await on the other side of the door. I am not sure if it is the weight, the fact that they have to "do" something to get out or that the flap in not clear and they cannot see directly on the other side. Between the indoor only cats and the weather, it is not the time to just keep the flap up all the time. Besides, the idea of going through the opening itself doesn't seem to be an issue. Help! Thanks Quote Cindy with Miss Fancypants, Paris Bueller, Zeke, and Angus Dante (Dg's Boyd), Zoe (In a While), Brady (Devilish Effect), Goose (BG Shotgun), Maverick (BG ShoMe), Maggie (All Trades Jax), Sherman (LNB Herman Bad) and Indy (BYB whippet) forever in my heart The flame that burns the brightest, burns the fastest and leaves the biggest shadow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAJ2010 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Can you make the flap non magnetic for a few days so they can figure out they can push through it easily? Then once they are used to that you can put the magnet back and they should be used to pushing through enough to try harder Quote ------ Jessica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tequila Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Do you have a link (or photo ) showing what this dog door looks like? I wonder if it might be possible to change the opague flap for a CLEAR flap, so they can see through it, to the other side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBass Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Piper made the dog door easy for me, as he has made most things easy, bless him. He just seemed to "get it" and after a couple of days of holding the flap and tempting him with treats, he was fine. I think it helped him to know that I was on the other side of the flap even more than that there were treats to be had since he likes to be where I am. The other two hounds have picked it up immediately from watching Piper. Perhaps occasionally confine the indoor cats and prop the flap open a bit so they don't have to push so much? I like JAJ2010's idea of blocking the magnet for a bit if possible to make the process easier for them. Maybe manually help by moving hte flap just enough to break the magnetic seal and try to get them to push it the rest of the way and gradually reduce the assistance as they aget comfortable with going in and out? In terms of needing to see through the flaps--my dog doors have double flaps that are flexible and slightly see-through in that light comes through but they really don't allow the dogs to see through them in any meaningful way so I'm not sure that improved visibility will help, unless you think that is really throwing your crew for a loop. Do you have one hound who seems closer to "getting it" than the others? Maybe concentrate your training time and effort on that dog in the hope that s/he will train the others? Good luck! Piper says to tell them the "Get wif da program you guys! Try it. You'll like it!" --Lucy Quote Lucy with Greyhound Nate and OSH Tinker. With loving memories of MoMo (FTH Chyna Moon), Spirit, Miles the slinky kitty (OSH), Piper "The Perfect" (Oneco Chaplin), Winston, Yoda, Hector, and Claire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJNg Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Can you make the flap non magnetic for a few days so they can figure out they can push through it easily? I agree this might be a good idea. If you can't remove the magnet, putting a few layers of masking tape over the magnet will make it easier to open. Quote Jennifer & Willow (Wilma Waggle), Wiki (Wiki Hard Ten), Carter (Let's Get It On), Ollie (whippet), Gracie (whippet x), & Terra (whippet) + Just Saying + Just Alice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sheila Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 perhaps you could try putting them on a leash and threading the leash through the door and lead them through it. Or you could have them stand in front of the door and gently nudge them from behind. Both of these have worked for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracegirl Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 In my house all I'd have to do would be to yell "SQUIRREL" a few times.....they'd go rocketing into the backyard to get that rodent without a second thought of the dog door. In all seriousness though, I'm jealous of your dog door. Long story short, I'm renting and desprately want one but it won't currently work for a variety or reasons. Quote Poppy the lurcher 11/24/23 Gabby the Airedale 7/1/18 Forever missing Grace (RT's Grace), Fenway (not registered, def a greyhound), Jackson (airedale terrier, honorary greyhound), and Tessie (PK's Cat Island) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazehund Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) Can you make the flap non magnetic for a few days so they can figure out they can push through it easily? Then once they are used to that you can put the magnet back and they should be used to pushing through enough to try harder This is the problem for Poot and Dodger. The OP is right, the magnets on these doors are very strong. Like the OP my cats can push through it but the dogs don't seem to understand they really need to push hard to get it to move. So I am going to also remove the magnets ( when it gets warmer in upstate NY) and try that. I think Dodger will get it with a little food encouragement. Pooter will be a bit more of a challenge. OP, 12 days is not long. Pooter is in her third year here, Dodger his second. I had one hound who never, ever learned to do the dog door. I think he was the exception rather than the rule. Most greyhounds can easily learn a dog door. Keep at it. Edit to add I have the same door as the OP. Edited April 7, 2011 by gazehund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighsayer Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 I have had my two new 11 year olds for six weeks. The girl figured it out in a week. The guy still doesn't get it! I replaced the flap with a light weight blanket last week and he just started to go through it a few days ago. I have five dogs, so sometimes he just follows the pack through the door. Last night he was on the outside of the door by himself and cried to get in. I made him do it himself, but did lift the corner of the blanket so he knew where to put his nose. I have a two piece flap with a magnetic seal. I plan to leave the blanket there till Easter weekend when I am home for 4 days. Then I will put the center flap in and hope that he can figure it out. There is a small space all around it where the outside flap goes so he will be able to see the other side of the door. I need to get this done before I need the air conditioning on. The blanket is just a piece of a fleece throw cut a little larger than the hole. I just poked the screws through the fabric and hung it where the flap goes. It is easy to push through it. I tried the leash thing and pushing him through, but I'm afraid that he may be terrified of the door and give up. This is working for me so far. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubcitypam Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 I've heard other people having good luck with a towel or blanket like Neighsayer suggests.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllenEveBaz Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Maybe manually help by moving hte flap just enough to break the magnetic seal and try to get them to push it the rest of the way and gradually reduce the assistance as they get comfortable with going in and out? This is how I've done it with 5 dogs. It sounds like you're doing everything right; eventually it will "click" with one of the dogs and then they'll both be using it. Quote Ellen, with brindle Milo and the blonde ballerina, Gelsey remembering Eve, Baz, Scout, Romie, Nutmeg, and Jeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante2zoe Posted April 8, 2011 Author Share Posted April 8, 2011 Thanks for the suggestions! If I do release the magnet, one will stick his nose in there and get it going. I still make sure that it won't swing back and whack another one in the nose. While I love my crew, none of them will be invited to join Mensa! I tried covering the magnet last night, but it's at the bottom of the flap itself and it won't shut then, nor will it swing all the way through. Patience must be the key - something I don't have in abundance! The visual aspect was because for one, I have to stick my face in the opening before he will come through. Now, to be honest, the littermates tried to go through the door at the same time (and the same time that I had the slider open so I could go out) and they shoved the entire door off the track and into the yard. He now has staples in his leg and is a little gun shy. However, knowing him, if his brother will go through, he isn't going to be outdone. Once the weather breaks, I will try to keep the flap up and use something else (like a teatowel and progressively heavier) until they get used to pushing through. Gazehound - it is a nice door, but that flap does have some weight to it. So far, the dang cat hasn't figured out how to get back in, thankfully. Prime hunting season for him. Cindy Quote Cindy with Miss Fancypants, Paris Bueller, Zeke, and Angus Dante (Dg's Boyd), Zoe (In a While), Brady (Devilish Effect), Goose (BG Shotgun), Maverick (BG ShoMe), Maggie (All Trades Jax), Sherman (LNB Herman Bad) and Indy (BYB whippet) forever in my heart The flame that burns the brightest, burns the fastest and leaves the biggest shadow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thedozer Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Sounds like the same door we have and it took Dozer about 3 weeks to figure it out. I thought he would never get it but he finally did. Hang in there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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