Any Ideas On Whats Causing These Fx"s

[Guest tysmom]

Im still waiting on the rest of the panel. He was going to give it to me but I had to run in there get the plint wrap fixed and ran back to my home for an appointment.

I asked him if I could call him.

So probably wil be latter today.

 

jen, are you still puzzling over the original fx? You don't think he should have been able to break his foot even if here was an injury like I described??

If the blood work is ok should i be loking at something else?

 

 

(symphytum 200C) I have no idea what that is.. but thank you I will look it up.

deb

[Guest LindsaySF]

The biggest problem Im having now is his stubbornness. When we camp he goes to the Br fine on the leash. IN his own yard he plainly refuses to go on leash. Im about ready to pull my hair out with him.

If I let him out on his own to pee he will attempt to run all the way in the back to go and I have a huge yard.

its been a week and he refuses to go on leash.

Ive had to make the decision to let him go on his own.

I would NOT let him have access to the entire yard, not while he's still healing. He'll go running when it's too soon. Leash-walking is ideal at this stage. You could wait him out, eventually he'll go. (My dog Honey didn't poop for 3 days on our first vacation ).

 

If he absolutely won't go potty on-leash, I would purchase some garden fencing and fence off a very small turn-out area for him (or use an ex-pen). But I definitely would restrict his access to the whole yard, it's for his own good.

You might need to put him out separately also, so he's more focused on pottying vs. playing with the other dogs.

 

~Lindsay~

Edited December 2, 2010 by LindsaySF

[racindog]

200C? That's an awfully high dose, even for just single application. 200C is oft called the "great aggravator" for good reason. That's not to say that that might not be the propery CH remedy, but you need someone who can take into account the whole of the dog and his symptoms before choosing a remedy.

 

IMO, way too many "homeopathic" or "holistic" vets just doling out dosages of remedies by rote and based on symptoms - which is not CH at all, merely CH remedies applied allopathically.

You are EXACTLY right! I agree 100%. I should have put that info in my post as well. My vet is quite accomplished- not like the ones you're talking about. Those kind give a really good healing modality a bad name by not knowing what they're doing and getting negative results IMO. My vet specifically tunes the remedy for the patient. I mistakenly assumed people would be aware of the need to use a KNOWLEDGEABLE practioner and that certainly what is best for one dog may not be suitable for another one. I should have added a caution in on that I guess but actually thats why I suggusted they research it since theres too many details to cover in a quickie post. Thanks for bringing it to my attention- perhaps I'll remember to caution folks in the future.

 

[Guest Swifthounds]

 

jen, are you still puzzling over the original fx? You don't think he should have been able to break his foot even if here was an injury like I described??

If the blood work is ok should i be loking at something else?

 

It's certainly possible that he broke the toe the first time by whacking it into something. The second fx I think is the result of the extra strain on the foot that already was weakened by the previous amp. So, if there was trauma that explains the first fx, then I guess it's not that puzzling.

 

You'll probably need to restrict his exercise in the yard for quite some time. Whether it's leash walks, a long line or flexi, or fencing a small area in the yard. You'll want to get him healed and get the muscles in the feet reconditioned as well (the big down side to splints and casts is the soft tissue atrophy, which means the muscles and ligaments of the feet need to be worked back into shape, but not until after the fx have healed).

[Guest tysmom]

Im sitting in a hotel room but wanted to say The doc had his vet tech call me at work friday and say

his thyroid is low and I should supplement. And I said you mean give him thyroid meds? and she said i knew you where going to ask me that question.

 

OMG! I want to pull my hair out with this office.

ok, breathing calmly again..

Here's another question, I was reading another thread where they were talking about thyroid issues and they seemed to be saying that you

go by a dogs behavior as well as the numbers when deciding on whether to use drugs or not??

 

What would be the symptoms of a grey with low thyroid?

deb

[Batmom]

If you haven't had a full thyroid panel including fT4ed and TSH, you want one of those. Best is Michigan State University's premium panel with endocrinologist's interpretation. You can't evaluate greyhound thyroid based on T4 alone. You can't really evaluate other breeds' thyroid based on T4 alone either, but other breeds tend to have clearer symptoms.

 

Classic low thyroid symptoms are *unusual* hair loss, *unusual* lethargy, and weight gain on very little food. Those can be hard to judge in a greyhound. Some folks will add things like aggression, shyness, etc., but the research doesn't bear that out -- those things are equally distributed among normal and low-thyroid dogs. Well, except for aggression. A low thyroid dog is actually *less* likely to be aggressive.

 

If the dog's full-panel test results were inconclusive and the dog had no symptoms, you wouldn't treat. If the dog's full-panel test results were inconclusive and the dog had symptoms, you would treat.

 

 

At this point, I would be consulting with an orthopedic specialist or a university. The second fracture wasn't normal.

[Guest tysmom]

Thank you very much for the symptoms list.

Non of the symptoms you mention seem to be present, he has a whole host of others though which have always been attributed to his

past environment. He is what you call an extreme scardy boy. He shakes and shivers at the drop of a hat. Even after being with us for two years plus now.

He was virtually unadoptable because of his special needs.

 

His coat is beautiful. He"s a fawn boy, aggression of any type... never on the radar . He isn't over weight at all he within the 5 pounds of race weight and has been.

The more I hear here from folks the more i want to leave well enough alone

 

If any of his issues with behavior or demeanor could be helped by thyroid I'd be happy to do it. But it just doesn't sound that way.

deb

[tbhounds]

I doubt your hound is hypothyroid. If it was me I would save my money on further testing. So many hounds are being supplemened without warrant.

[Guest tysmom]

I doubt your hound is hypothyroid. If it was me I would save my money on further testing. So many hounds are being supplemened without warrant.

 

I'm beginning to agree. I'm not doing anything further with that issue.

deb