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Hi Everyone- Im new and very impressed with all the help and advice you've given to others. Hope you all can help me too. I have had my Grey for 6 yrs (we also have a whippet and an Italian greyhound). 5 yrs ago the Grey bit the ear of the whippet and 2 yrs ago bit the ear of the I.G. Right then I became the Alpha and things were GREYT and have stayed that way. Im definitely in charge and the grey respects me and my rules. (Im the new Cesar Milan) ha! Saturday we added an 8 yr old greyhound boy to the group and he is NOT attacking the IG but wont stop chasing after him. He growls while wagging his tail and occasionally barks, but Im still very uncomfortable. Im trying to teach him the rules that we go by in this house but he gets a little A.D.D. and will stopping running after the IG, but still walks RIGHT BEHIND him. What can I do? (P.s. he doesnt care about the other grey nor the whippet). THANKS

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Well it took a squirt bottle to stop JoeyB from chasing Jilly Bean. Every time I caught him I'd squirt him and tell him NO. Jilly Bean helped a little too by growling and snapping at him, unfortunately he seems to think she's playing. He's been squirted quite a few times and now he responds to my NO and stops. I don't let those two outside together because she likes to run in the yard and even though he's muzzled, I'm afraid he could hurt her.

Judy, mom to Darth Vader, Bandita, And Angel

Forever in our hearts, DeeYoGee, Dani, Emmy, Andy, Heart, Saint, Valentino, Arrow, Gee, Bebe, Jilly Bean, Bullitt, Pistol, Junior, Sammie, Joey, Gizmo, Do Bee

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ok thanks, I will try that. By the way, are all 13 of these yours? I hope you have a huge house

 

We actually have 11 right now, Emmy and Andy in my siggy have crossed the bridge.

Judy, mom to Darth Vader, Bandita, And Angel

Forever in our hearts, DeeYoGee, Dani, Emmy, Andy, Heart, Saint, Valentino, Arrow, Gee, Bebe, Jilly Bean, Bullitt, Pistol, Junior, Sammie, Joey, Gizmo, Do Bee

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Squirt bottle and redirection will probably help. Also this may resolve more over time and familiarity. For now, don't let the two play together and the greyhound should be muzzled, even in the house, and especially if they are left alone.

Chris - Mom to: Lilly, Felicity (DeLand), and Andi (Braska Pandora)

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Angels: Libby (Everlast), Dorie (Dog Gone Holly), Dude (TNJ VooDoo), Copper (Kid's Copper), Cash (GSI Payncash), Toni (LPH Cry Baby), Whiskey (KT's Phys Ed), Atom

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Squirt bottle and redirection will probably help. Also this may resolve more over time and familiarity. For now, don't let the two play together and the greyhound should be muzzled, even in the house, and especially if they are left alone.

 

 

The muzzle hurts me more than him I guess. I havent used it yet because each time I leave I kennel him. Last night, we went to the store to get him a squeeky stuffed animal toy and he LOVES it. he didnt put it down until we went to bed. not sure if that really helped, but it appears to have distracted him!! :)

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The above suggestions is a good method, I would also add "positive reinforcement training" into the mix (if you are a CM fan, this may be a foreign concept). To do this, whenever your iggie is in the room with your new hound, get your new hounds attention, when your new hound looks away from the iggie and looks toward you, treat the greyhound. Do this many many times. Your greyhound will learn that whenever he sees the iggie and looks at you, treats appear, and the staring and following should subside. This is the method that I use in conjunction the squirt bottle method to help "workable" hounds to leave my cats alone (I foster). The positive reinforcement is what I switch to when the hound will stop following, or chasing, but can't stop staring. Sounds like your greyhound is just interested and wants to play, unfortunately the play can be damaging to a smaller animal. By the way, the muzzle is your BEST FRIEND. It is in no way cruel, harmful, emotionally scarring or otherwise wrong to use to help insure the safety of your other animals.

 

 

p.s. side note, there is a huge rift here between the CM fans and the non-CM fans. There have been a few very heated threads about CM's training methods, so just be aware that touting his methods may get some people very upset and you may receive some less than encouraging responses.

 

Chad

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I'd second what greysmom said :nod Also, when you are trying to extinguish a behavior, consistency is critical. You must be very clear in what behavior is not acceptable and that behavior must be corrected *every single time.* Timing is key when giving a correction or redirecting...it's best if you can stop him before he gets to the point of actually chasing.

 

Also make sure he's getting plenty of exercise.

 

The above suggestions is a good method, I would also add "positive reinforcement training" into the mix (if you are a CM fan, this may be a foreign concept).

 

Says someone clearly ignorant of CM's methods :rolleyes: correction and positive reinforcement both have a role to play in shaping behavior.

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The above suggestions is a good method, I would also add "positive reinforcement training" into the mix (if you are a CM fan, this may be a foreign concept). To do this, whenever your iggie is in the room with your new hound, get your new hounds attention, when your new hound looks away from the iggie and looks toward you, treat the greyhound. Do this many many times. Your greyhound will learn that whenever he sees the iggie and looks at you, treats appear, and the staring and following should subside. This is the method that I use in conjunction the squirt bottle method to help "workable" hounds to leave my cats alone (I foster). The positive reinforcement is what I switch to when the hound will stop following, or chasing, but can't stop staring. Sounds like your greyhound is just interested and wants to play, unfortunately the play can be damaging to a smaller animal. By the way, the muzzle is your BEST FRIEND. It is in no way cruel, harmful, emotionally scarring or otherwise wrong to use to help insure the safety of your other animals.

 

 

p.s. side note, there is a huge rift here between the CM fans and the non-CM fans. There have been a few very heated threads about CM's training methods, so just be aware that touting his methods may get some people very upset and you may receive some less than encouraging responses.

 

Chad

 

Chad- thank you!!! I am a huge fan of CM because what I learned from him worked on all 3 of my wonderful dogs. So thank you as well! You nailed it- when he does stop chasing, he still stares!! crazy- but I will try the positve reinforcement!

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If he is distractable from watching the small dog, and will come away/come to you then he is really "cat workable." If he stares, gets overly excited, drools, chatters his teeth, and won't stop staring unless you drag him from the room - then you have a problem.

 

For a cat workable dog, all you need to do is KEPP CONSISTENLY CORRECTING him. It doesn't take a huge correction - just enough to stop the behavior. And then treat like mad! Takes patience and time, but he will get better. Use the squirt bottle if necessary, redirection to a toy or to do a command, and treat and praise when he does it and when he's acting good around the IG.

Chris - Mom to: Lilly, Felicity (DeLand), and Andi (Braska Pandora)

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Angels: Libby (Everlast), Dorie (Dog Gone Holly), Dude (TNJ VooDoo), Copper (Kid's Copper), Cash (GSI Payncash), Toni (LPH Cry Baby), Whiskey (KT's Phys Ed), Atom

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If he is distractable from watching the small dog, and will come away/come to you then he is really "cat workable." If he stares, gets overly excited, drools, chatters his teeth, and won't stop staring unless you drag him from the room - then you have a problem.

 

For a cat workable dog, all you need to do is KEPP CONSISTENLY CORRECTING him. It doesn't take a huge correction - just enough to stop the behavior. And then treat like mad! Takes patience and time, but he will get better. Use the squirt bottle if necessary, redirection to a toy or to do a command, and treat and praise when he does it and when he's acting good around the IG.

 

 

GREAT!!! thanks!! yes he definitely distractable!

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  • 2 years later...

Pete has been with us 3 weeks today, 1 week since we signed papers. He came to us almost straight from the track we were the Foster. He has been living with us, 3 people, a golden retriever, and our 4 cats very well He was bullied by the most senior female cat actually. No blood was drawn, but i think he was saved by having on his muzzle, but I have become very relaxed and don't put it on him in the house. Well all has been fine, if i see him staring I call his name and he looks at me, not always a treat handy, but he always get's praised. Today I had rubbed Pete down with his grooming mitt and a damp paper towel, he was relaxing on his bed. The white kitty came over to me for some attention, he has been very scarce for the last 3 weeks, so i haven't been able to give him any loving, so i got the cat grooming brushes and sat on the floor, the regular place for grooming cat coats. well, only a couple of minutes into this Pete snapped angrily at Elwood and got told NO very sternly. here is my question, my husband says Pete did not like the cat getting attention and that is why he acted out. I'm not sure, I think he been really good at holding in his desire to chase a kitty and I tell him many times he's so good for not looking at them, he has gotten nose to nose a few times with Freckles and Jake. Ozzy (boss Cat) will enter a room and Pete looks the other way, or just down at the pillow no eye contact with her at all. . Do you think it was just an attention issue?

 

We are also have some chewing toys apart and swallowing pieces. I know i need some more indestructable toys. any help is great

 

Pete has a walk in the morning and a run around the backyard 2 times a day, midmorning and after dinner we try to get him to run around after he' s done with business.

 

thanks for any replys, comments, suggestions, feedback - thanks

Peggy - Pete (Wild Pan Thief), Remy (Exotic Ziricote) Buddy the Golden 11-26-04 to 9-18-15, the KATZ - Ozzy, Freckles, Jake and Elwood Hubba, Desert Tortoises Tortilita, and Athena. and when I figure out how to make a PET collage they will all be included in this signature. I included my 2 most recent fosters. Marie a sweet darling of a girl. And Willie, a dog I want to keep. He is a loveable mushy boy.

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