Anyone Recognize These Bumps

[Guest zoolaine]

I started a thread in Off Topic about how worried I am about Sunny. Last weekend he began having terrible diarrhea - he has Protein Losing Enteropathy (although fairly well managed) - so not too concerning. But starting on Monday or Tuesday he began getting all these bumps on him. They started primarily on his face and rump but are spreading - seems like they are along his bony areas: pelvis, spine, face, shoulder. He doesn't seem to have them on his legs, sides or stomach.

 

The one below his eye is the easiest to see but is basically the same as he has all over his rump under his fur. You can't see it as well but there is also one on the lateral part of his lower eyelid. His eye looks funky because he was drifting off to sleep

 

This is where they did the 3 punch biopsies:

 

 

 

 

So far the bumps have mystified all the vets. My vet has consulted with the specialist at the lab that is helping regulate Sunny's PLE, and a specialist at Washington State University (said sometime pancreatitis can present with bumps so may want to re-test him for that even though he has tested negative previously. Yesterday we drove over to Seattle area to see a specialty clinic that the lab recommended. They also did not know what the bumps are. they do not think they are from an allergy. I guess they don't fit the pattern and Sunny is on immune suppressing meds (Budesonide and Aziothrioprine as well as Metroniazidole). They said maybe mast cell tumors or hemangiosarcoma. The results should be back on Tuesday, so now the long wait

 

Oh and Sunny is also having hind end weakness. He slipped on the kitchen floor Friday morning and hurts his leg - x-rays didn't show anything so they are saying it is just a soft tissue injury but didn't really address the weakness. He will go back next week to see an internal medicine specialist and have another ultrasound done (the one he had in August 2008 showed some abnormalities on his spleen but that was about it).

[Guest Energy11]

I WISH I knew what these are. I'd be cautiously suspicious ... waiting for the vet's diagnosis. In the meantime, all I can say, yeah, like it is easy, ... to not stress until you have to! Just like me, with Curfew, I HAVE to take each day at a time, or go mad!

 

Please, TRY to relax, and keep us posted on all of this ... Love, hugs and prayers! Dee and The Five

[CaliforniaGreys]

Thinking good thoughts here

[greytluck]

Were they filled with anything, blood, pus, liquid ect? What do they feel like, hard, soft, attached to the skin or under it?

 

I really don't have any idea but with more info maybe someone else could steer you in the right direction.

 

 

Continued prayers for Sunny.

[Guest zoolaine]

Were they filled with anything, blood, pus, liquid ect? What do they feel like, hard, soft, attached to the skin or under it?

 

I really don't have any idea but with more info maybe someone else could steer you in the right direction.

 

 

Continued prayers for Sunny.

 

they were bloody when they did the punch biopsies. To me they feel hard and just in the skin and not attached to the underlying tissue. He has 5 on his face (including one on his lip and one on his eyelid) and 12-25 on his rump. And another 10-15 along his back. I so hate waiting.

[ahicks51]

Just a blind stab in the dark- with immunosuppresion, the first thing that jumps to mind is infection: staph, etc., but those don't look like staph. The second thing would be fungal- and although fungal problems present in a strange fashion, those just don't seem like fungi. Then, of course, the potential for malignancies comes up, but the geographic disjunction (eyes and rump? too far apart) makes that somewhat less likely. It implies there's something physiological going on, something related by the whole body rather than a local thing.

 

My guess is that it'd be a rash from the pancreatitis, but in humans the rash is normally red (maculopapular rash). No idea if it presents any differently in the canine.

[Guest zoolaine]

Cutaneous Lymphoma

[Guest multigrey]

We just had a lovely little 8 year old brood diagnosed with cutaneous T cell lymphoma. She also has multiple "bumps" all over her. We did not catch hers as early as you did since she had been on a farm for the past year or so after she had her last litter.

 

There was immediate contact made with Dr. Couto and he gave us a chemo protocol to follow with all instructions that go with it. Our vet had no personal experience with chemo and this form of lymphoma. The success rate is good...that should give you some positive thoughts after hearing a diagnosis that was so unexpected.

 

Please contact me if you have any questions and DO contact Dr. Couto at OSU for help. We all know how special he is and are so greatful for all he has done for all greyhounds.

 

Good luck to you....

[tamborine]

Oh no. When you first posted the pictures I didn't want to say anything depressing, but they resembled when my Odd Cat's mast cell carcinoma didn't respond to chemo & spread. I thought they looked like something malignant.

 

I think this has a better prognosis than mast cell though. Are you contacting Dr. Couto? Sending lots of white light & good thoughts to Sunny (and hugs to you!).

 

 

ETA: Nevermind the Dr. Couto question - realized Sunny's not a grey. Sorry.

Edited January 27, 2010 by tamborine

[racindog]

Praying for Sunny. Regardless of what they are God can heal them.