Guest alphiesdad Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 This is a subsequent post to an earlier one from today (Will they ever cuddle). Within the next day or two Alphie (our older male) and Cheeky (our new girl) will be tanking their first ride together. Alphie has never been muzzled (at any time) since he's been with us. Should I muzzle them when I take them out in the s.u.v.? Cheeky has only been with us for three weeks, and for a lack of a better word they "tolerate" each other. Does being in a car together bring out aggression, or will they be so preoccupied with the scenery outside that it won't matter. The reason I am asking is because I don't know how Alphie will react to a muzzle having hardly ever worn one. He was only on the track for 7 months before having a career ending injury and being offered for adoption. Thank you for any help. Quote
Guest Spencers_Greyt Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 Personally, if this is the first time the 2 of them have been together in a car, I would muzzle both. I have done it when I had new dogs. At least you will find out if they have issues or not and noone will be hurt. Quote
Guest greytbookert Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 If it were me, I'd muzzle just to be on the safe side. Alphie will get used to the muzzle Quote
Guest 3greysinPA Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 I would put the muzzles on in the car, just to be on the safe side. That way No one gets hurt and everyone stays safe including you while driving. Quote
silverfish Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 I've never muzzled mine in the car, but if yours barely tolerate each other it might be safer till you see how they are with riding in a confined space together. The last thing you need is to have an accident because someone stepped on someone else and a fight broke out. Quote The plural of anecdote is not dataBrambleberry Greyhounds My Etsy Shop
SarahsBlackPack Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 I would muzzle them both. We have a rule for our SUV, any more than 1 dog. Everyone gets to wear a muzzle. The last thing I need is a fight in the back of the truck! Quote Sarah, mom to Stella and Winston . And to Prince, Katie Z, Malone, Brooke, Freddie, Angel and Fast who are all waiting at the Bridge!www.gpawisconsin.org
Guest widowcali Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 Sometimes I think to myself what a lucky idiot I was. I adopted Widow, my second greyhound, only a year after adopting Cali and well before I discovered Greytalk. When I think about what could have happened.... I was incredibly lucky that Widow is so submissive and lets Cali take the lead in all things. However, now that Brighid the Wonder Puppy has come along, I've had to learn a few things. Since Cali only mildly tolerates Bri, and Bri has yet to learn boundries, Cali get's muzzled when it's the two of them in a confined space. Cali hates the muzzle, as she has to wear one occasionally when we go to Greyhound get togethers. So usually the threat of the muzzle forces her to behave. Looking forward to my first really long car ride (Bri was still small enough to fit on my lap and preferred to ride there when we went to Kanab last year), I am re-thinking the muzzle thing. I may have to muzzle Cali when we go to Solvang next month. Quote
greysmom Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 All mine get along fine and we still muzzle in the car. You never know when one might get thrown against another going around a corner or get stepped on or want to look out the same window. Yes, your male may not like it. But some discomfort for him is better than a trip to the vet for a serious bite wound. Once you have a track record of knowing how they will react you can muzzle or not - but with knowledge on your side. Quote Chris - Mom to: Felicity (DeLand), and Andi (Braska Pandora) siggy by Chris Harper, on Flickr Angels: Libby (Everlast), Dorie (Dog Gone Holly), Dude (TNJ VooDoo), Copper (Kid's Copper), Cash (GSI Payncash), Toni (LPH Cry Baby), Whiskey (KT's Phys Ed), Atom, Lilly
Guest lanielovesgreys Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 I would. Once Laika stepped on Sol on an unusually abrupt turn and he bit her. It was the only time, but he did. And you never know when a situation like that would happen. Better be safe than.... well a 2k vet bill. Quote
Guest sheila Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 until you know how your new dog is going to react in all situations, I would muzzle both just to be safe. I normally don't muzzle my dogs in the car. However the one exception was a pair of males that 'tolerated' each other at home and could be relied on to have a snark-fest in the car. Quote
Guest Swifthounds Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 Personally, I muzzle anytime I have more than one hound in the vehicle. It's not so much that they are more "aggressive" in a car, but rather that the close quarters can mean what could be a yipe or a warning snarl turns into a nip or a gash - too many factors at play for my comfort. The movement of the car, potholes, sudden stops - any one of which can mean one dog catching a tooth on another. I don't risk it with hounds that have lived together for years (this particular version of my pack has been together over 1 years) and I would certainly be more cautious with two hounds just feeling one another out. Even if one of your hounds only raced a short while he was certainly used to the muzzle long before hitting the track. He just needs a refresher course. IME, muzzling is more traumatic for adopters than for the dog. Quote
greytluck Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 Even though my two got along really well I still used to muzzle in the car. A few times one would accidentally step on the other and there would be a growl or snap, I was glad they were muzzled. Quote Hobbes-Ricard Hatch09/23/99-12/21/09 Always loved, never forgotten. Wally TNJ Boy Howdy, GLS Genuinerisk Corinna
Guest PhillyPups Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 (edited) I look at muzzles as a safety tool, just like my seatbelt. I never plan on getting into an accident, but always buckle up. I would hate to be passing another vehicle on a 4 lane highway and a fight break out cause one stepped on the other and not be able to pull over quickly, it could be a dogs life at stake, and if I muzzle one, I muzzle all. They are used to muzzles, and don't forget. I recently drove mine straight through to Florida, all muzzled, as we arrived in the middle of the night, mine slept in a kennel that was set up for them that night. The first one into a crate was Zeus, much to my surprise, he has not been crated in over 7 years. Edited January 12, 2010 by PhillyPups Quote
Guest Erin Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 I have two and I muzzle in the car. I started after they barked ferociously at one another one time. Nothing transpired, but now the muzzles give piece of mind more than anything else. Quote
Guest snakes Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 I muzzled for the first couple of weeks (riding frequently) just until we all knew how everyone was going to be in the car. Mine get along great and now we don't muzzle. Every once in awhile someone gets stepped on and there is a snap or shreik but no damage. Just be very very carefull on corners, they get thrown off balance sooo easily. Also, if you don't already have one, get a dog gate between the passengers and dogs, two heads poking or licking you is waaay more distarcting than one, I am thankfull for mine every day! Quote
MerlinsMum Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 Yes, muzzle, especially since they're new to each other. I have only just stopped muzzling my two in the car for short trips across town (5-10 minutes), because they have absolutely no space issues whatsoever and indeed they like to sleep on top of each other half the time But I always bring muzzles with me so that I have them on hand if I need to use them. Quote Kerry with Lupin in beautiful coastal Maine. Missing Pippin, my best friend and sweet little heart-healer 2013-2023 Also missing the best wizard in the world, Merlin, and my sweet 80lb limpet, Sagan, every single day.
seeh2o Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 Mine are very docile and get along well with one another, but I always muzzle in the car. One time Carl got his leash caught on his leg and he had a scary screaming bucking fit, he was alone in the car with me, but I shudder to think how it would have ended had Claire been in the back seat with him. I'd probably have to have driven straight to the e-vet. So, I muzzle both and make sure leashes are off. Quote Sunsands Doodles: Doodles aka Claire, Bella Run Softly: Softy aka Bowie (the Diamond Dog) Missing my beautiful boy Sunsands Carl 2.25.2003 - 4.1.2014
Guest eaglflyt Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 I always muzzle all dogs if I have more than one in the car. This isn't breed specific, either. I surely don't want anyone getting upset and something triggering a fear bite or fight, especially when driving. You can always put a little peanut butter smeared on the inside of the muzzle to make it a more pleasant experience. ; ) Quote
MerlinsMum Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 Mine are very docile and get along well with one another, but I always muzzle in the car. One time Carl got his leash caught on his leg and he had a scary screaming bucking fit, he was alone in the car with me, but I shudder to think how it would have ended had Claire been in the back seat with him. I'd probably have to have driven straight to the e-vet. So, I muzzle both and make sure leashes are off. Hmm. Good point. Maybe I'll start muzzling them again in the car even for short trips... After all, if someone steps on another's tail, it doesn't matter how well they get along... it could trigger an incident and it's not something I want to experience when I'm driving. Quote Kerry with Lupin in beautiful coastal Maine. Missing Pippin, my best friend and sweet little heart-healer 2013-2023 Also missing the best wizard in the world, Merlin, and my sweet 80lb limpet, Sagan, every single day.
TheFullHouse Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 I agree with the muzzles. All it takes is for someone to scream because they're foots caught or something and you have a fight in the back of the car and you're trying to pull off the road to stop it before someone is badly hurt. Quote Judy, mom to Darth Vader, Bandita, And Angel Forever in our hearts, DeeYoGee, Dani, Emmy, Andy, Heart, Saint, Valentino, Arrow, Gee, Bebe, Jilly Bean, Bullitt, Pistol, Junior, Sammie, Joey, Gizmo, Do Bee
silverfish Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 Mine are very docile and get along well with one another, but I always muzzle in the car. One time Carl got his leash caught on his leg and he had a scary screaming bucking fit, he was alone in the car with me, but I shudder to think how it would have ended had Claire been in the back seat with him. I'd probably have to have driven straight to the e-vet. So, I muzzle both and make sure leashes are off. Personally, I never leave leashes on the dogs in the car for exactly that reason. Even when there's just one dog, but with two, it's even more likely someone will get tripped or tangled. Quote The plural of anecdote is not dataBrambleberry Greyhounds My Etsy Shop
RaineysMom Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 we muzzle our two every time. Doesn't hurt them a bit and keeps the peace Quote Kim and Bruce - with Rick (Rick Roufus 6/30/16) and missing my sweet greyhound Angels Rainey (LG's Rainey 10/4/2000 - 3/8/2011), Anubis (RJ's Saint Nick 12/25/2001 - 9/12/12) and Zeke (Hey Who Whiz It 4/6/2009 - 7/20/2020) and Larry (PTL Laroach 2/24/2007 - 8/2/2020) -- and Chester (Lab) (8/31/1990 - 5/3/2005), Captain (Schipperke) (10/12/1992 - 6/13/2005) and Remy (GSP) (?/?/1998 - 1/6/2005) at the bridge"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." -- Ernest Hemmingway
Guest marreve22 Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 "Should I muzzle them when I take them out in the s.u.v.?" Up to this point I have put one in the front passenger seat with me, and the other one gets the whole back seat. They have had to share a couple times, in the back seat, if I actually have a passenger, and yes, tolerate each other is the best I will call it. They act like most sisters 'mom, she's touching me',,,'stop touching me'... I am enjoying reading these posts, as I have been through a lot of these issues and thought it was just me. I have 2 girls and they certainly don't like each other, though during the 'meet and greet' at the rescue place, they acted just fine...of course. I am glad to know I am not the only one with these issues And am very grateful to have found this website Quote
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