New Vaccination Guidelines Being Taught

[Guest Hokiebuck]

I found this on our group's listserv and thought I would post it here. It should be interesting to hear what kind of kickback some Vets will have:

 

Dr. Jean Dodd's NEW vaccine protocol - PERMISSION TO CROSSPOST

 

Dr. W. Jean Dodd's vaccination protocol is now being adopted by ALL 27 North American veterinary schools. I highly recommend that you read this. Copy and save it to your files. Print it and pass it out at dog fairs, cat shows, kennel club meetings, dog parks, give a copy to your

veterinarian and groomer, etc., etc. Get the word out.

 

Hi everyone.... THIS is wonderful news, that the veterinary schools are now going to be teaching that over-vaccination of pets (once a year "boosters") is only not necessary, but in some cases can be harmful or deadly! It has information for both dogs and cats. There still is an ongoing study regarding the Rabies vaccine. Most states now allow (reluctantly) 3 year Rabies, but the study is collecting data on whether or not even that may be too much. They are looking at 8 or 10 year Rabies!

 

I hope you all stop having yearly boosters for your pets. If you're concerned with immune levels, have the vet run a Titer test. THEN and only then, if the levels are below acceptable, should you have a booster. After all, when is the last time you had a "booster" for smallpox, or whooping cough, or anything else you had shots for as a child? Immune systems work the same in all mammals, and the concept that pets have to have yearly shots doesn't make any more sense than if you had have shots every year. If mammal¢s immune systems were that weak in fending off these things, all of them, us included, would have been extinct years ago!

 

VACCINATION NEWS FLASH

 

I would like to make you aware that all 27 veterinary schools in North America are in the process of changing their protocols for vaccinating dogs and cats. Some of this information will present an

ethical & economic challenge to vets, and there will be skeptics. Some organizations have come up with a political compromise suggesting vaccinations every 3 years to appease those who fear loss of income vs those concerned about potential side effects.

 

Politics, traditions 20 or the doctor's economic well being should not be a factor in medical decision.

 

NEW PRINCIPLES OF IMMUNOLOGY

 

"Dogs and cats immune systems mature fully at 6 months. If a modified live virus (MLV) vaccine is given after 6 months of age, it produces an immunity which is good for the life of the pet (i.e: canine distemper, parvo, feline distemper). If another MLV vaccine is given a year later, the antibodies from the first vaccine neutralize the antigens of the second vaccine and there is little or no effect. The titer is not "boosted" nor are more memory cells induced."< BR>

Not only are annual boosters for parvo and distemper unnecessary, they subject the pet to potential risks of allergic reactions and immune-mediated hemolytic anemia. "There is no scientific documentation to back up label claims for annual administration of MLV vaccines." Puppies receive antibodies through their mother's milk. This natural protection can last 8-14 weeks. Puppies & kittens should NOT be vaccinated at LESS than 8 weeks. Maternal immunity will neutralize the vaccine and little protection (0-38%) will be produced. Vaccination at 6 weeks will, however, delay the timing of the first highly effective vaccine. Vaccinations given 2 weeks

apart suppress rather than stimulate the immune system. A series of vaccinations is given starting at 8 weeks and given 3-4 weeks apart up to 16 weeks of age. Another vaccination given sometime after 6 months of age (usually at 1 year 4 months) will provide lifetime immunity.

 

CURRENT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR DOGS

Distemper & Parvo *"According to Dr. Schultz, AVMA, 8-15-95, when a vaccinations series given at 2, 3 & 4 months and again at 1 year with MLV, puppies and kitten program memory cells that survive for life, providing lifelong immunity." Dr. Carmichael at Cornell and Dr. Schultz has studies showing immunity against challenge at 2-10 years for canine distemper & 4 years for parvovirus. Studies for longer duration are pending. "There are no new strains of parvovirus as one manufacturer would like to suggest. Parvovirus vaccination provides cross immunity for all types." Hepatitis (Adenovirus) is one of the agents known to be a cause of kennel cough. Only vaccines with CAV-2 should be used as CAV-1 vaccines carry the risk of "hepatitis blue-eye" reactions & kidney damage.

 

*Bordetella Parainfluenza: Commonly called "Kennel cough".

Recommended only for those dogs boarded, groomed, taken to dog shows, or for any reason housed where exposed to a lot of dogs. The intranasal vaccine provides more complete and more rapid onset of immunity with less chance of reaction. Immunity requires 72 hours and does not protect from every cause of kennel cough. Immunity is of short duration (4 to 6 months).*

 

*RABIES

There have been no reported cases of rabid dogs or cats in Harris, Montgomery or Ft. Bend Counties [ Texas ] but there have been rabid skunks and bats so the potential exists. It is a killed vaccine and must be given every year.

 

*Lyme disease

 

Lyme disease is a tick born disease which can cause lameness, kidney failure and heart disease in dogs. Ticks can also transmit the disease to humans. The original Ft. Dodge killed bacteria has proven to be the most effective vaccine. Lyme disease prevention should emphasize early removal of ticks. Amitraz collars are more effective than Top Spot, as amitraz paralyzes the tick's mouthparts preventing transmission of disease.

 

**VACCINATIONS NOT RECOMMENDED* *

 

Multiple components in vaccines compete with each other for the immune system and result in lesser immunity for each individual disease as well as increasing the risk of a reaction. Canine Corona Virus is only a disease of puppies. It is rare, self limiting (dogs get well in 3 days without treatment). Cornell & Texas A&M have only diagnosed one case each in the last 7 years. Corona virus does not cause disease in adult dogs.*

 

*Leptospirosis vaccine is a common cause of adverse reactions in dogs. Most of the clinical cases of lepto reported in dogs in the US are caused by serovaars (or types) grippotyphosa and bratsilvia. The vaccines contain different serovaars eanicola and ictohemorrhagica. Cross protection is not provided and protection is short lived . Lepto vaccine is immuno-supressive to puppies less than 16 weeks.

 

NEW RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CATS

 

Feline vaccine related Fibrosarcoma is a type of terminal cancer related in inflammation caused by rabies & leukemia vaccines. This cancer is thought to affect 1 in 10,000 cats vaccinated. Vaccines with aluminum adjuvant, an ingredient included to stimulate the immune system, have

been implicated as a higher risk. We now recommend a non-adjuvanted rabies vaccine for cats.

 

Testing by Dr. Macy, Colorado State, has shown this vaccine to have t he lowest tissue reaction and although there is no guarantee that a vaccine induced sarcoma will not develop, the risk will be much lower than with other vaccines.*

 

*Program injectable 6 month flea prevention for cats has been shown to be very tissue reactive & therefore has the potential of inducing an injection site fiborsarcoma. If your cats develops a lump at the site of a vaccination, we recommend that it be removed ASAP, within 3-12 weeks.*

 

*Feline Leukemia Virus Vaccine. This virus is the leading viral killer of cats. The individuals most at risk of infection are young outdoor cats, indoor/outdoor cats and cats exposed to such individuals. Indoor only cats with no exposure to potentially infected cats are unlikely to become infected. All cats should be tested prior to vaccination. Cats over one year of age are naturally

immune to Fel.V whether they are vaccinated or not, so annual vaccination of adult cats is NOT necessary. The incubation period of Feli ne leukemia can be over 3 years, so if your cat is in the

incubation state of the disease prior to vaccination, the vaccine will not prevent the disease. *

 

Feline Panleukopenia Virus Vaccine.

 

Also called feline distemper is a highly contagious and deadly viral disease of kittens. It's extremely hardy and is resistant to extremes in temperature and to most available disinfectants. Although an effective treatment protocol is available, it is expensive to treat because of the serious nature of the disease and the continued presence of virus in the environment, vaccination is highly recommended for all kittens. Cats vaccinated at 6 month or older with either killed or MLV vaccine will produce immunity good for life. Adult cats do NOT need this vaccine.

 

Feline Calicivirus/ Herpesvirus Vaccine.

 

Responsible for 80-90% of infectious feline upper respiratory tract diseases. The currently available injectable vaccines will minim ize the severity of upper respiratory infections, although none will prevent disease in all situations.* *Intranasal vaccines are more effective at preventing the disease entirely. Don't worry about normal sneezing for a couple of days. Because intranasal vaccines produce an immunity of shorter durations, annual vaccination is recommended.

 

VACCINES NOT RECOMMENDED

Chlamydia or pneumonitis. The vaccine produces a short (2 month) duration of immunity and accounts for less than 5% of upper respiratory infections in cats. The risks outweigh the benefits.*

 

*Feline Infectious Peritonitis.

 

A controversial vaccine. Most kittens that contract FIP become infected during the first 3 months of life. The vaccine is labeled for use at 16 weeks. All 27 vet schools do not recommend the vaccine.*

 

* Bordetella

 

A new vaccine for feline bordetella has been introduced. Dr. Wolfe of Texas A&M says that bordetella is a normal flora and does not caus e disease in adult cats. Dr. Lappin of Colorado State says that a review of the Colorado State medical records reveals not one case diagnosed in 10 years.

 

NEW DEVELOPMENTS:

 

Giardia is the most common intestinal parasite of humans in North America , 30% or more of all dogs & cats are infected with giardia. It has now been demonstrated that humans can transmit giardia to dogs & cats and vice versa.*

 

Heartworm preventative must be given year-round in Houston .

 

*VACCINES BADLY NEEDED

New vaccines in development include: Feline Immunodeficiency Virus and cat scratch fever vaccine for cats and Ehrlichia [one of the other tick diseases, much worse than Lyme] for dogs.

 

THE VIEW FROM THE TRENCHES; BUSINESS ASPECTS

 

Most vets recommend annual boosters and most kennel operators require them. For years, the pricing structure of vets has misled clients into thinking that the inherent value of an annual o ffice visit was in the "shots". They failed to emphasize the importance of a physical exam for early detection of treatable diseases. It is my hope that you will continue to require Rabies & Kennel cough and emphasize the importance of a recent vet exam. I also hope you will accept the new protocols and honor these pets as currently vaccinated. Those in the boarding business, who will honor the new vaccine facilities, are reluctant to change.

 

CONCLUSION

 

Dogs & cats no longer need to be vaccinated against distemper, parvo, & feline leukemia every year. Once the initial series of puppy or kitten vaccinations and first annual vaccinations are completed, immunity from MLV vaccines persists for life. It has been shown that cats over 1 year of age are immune to Feline Leukemia whether they have been vaccinated or not.

 

Imagine the money you will save, not to mention fewer risks from side risk of mediated hemolytic anemia and allergic reactions are r educed by less frequent use of vaccines as well as by avoiding unnecessary vaccines such as K-9 Corona virus and chlamydia for cats, as well as ineffective vaccines such as Leptospirosis and FIP. Intranasal vaccine for Rhiotracheitis and Calici virus, two upper respiratory viruses of cats provide more complete protection than injectable vaccines with less risk of serious reactions.

 

The AAHA and all 27 veterinary schools of North America are our biggest endorsement for these new protocols.*

 

*Dr. Bob Rogers*

 

Please consider as current on all vaccinations for boarding purposes.

 

DOGS Initial series of puppy vaccines

1. Distemper, hepatitis, parvo, parinfluenze - 3 sets one month apart

 

concluding at 16 weeks of age.*

2. Rabies at 16 weeks of age (later is better)

3. Bordetella within last 4-6 months

 

First annual (usually at 1 year and 4 months of age)*

1. DHP, Parvo, Rabies

2. Bordetella within last 4-6 months 2 years or older

 

1. Rabies within last year

2. Bordetella within last 4-6 months

3. DHP & Parvo given anytime over 6 months of age, but not

necessarily within the last year.

 

Recommended: Physical exam for transmissible diseases and health risks.

 

CATS Initial kitten series

1. Distemper [PLP], Rhino Calicivirus, Feline Leukemia Vaccine - 3 sets

given one month apart concluding at 16 weeks.

2. Rabies at 16 weeks

 

First Annual [usually at 1 year and 4 months of age]

1. Distemper (PLP), Rhino Calicivirus, Rabies 2 years or older

 

1. Rabies within the last year

2. Rhino Calicivirus within last year

3. Distemper and FelV given any time after 6 months of age, but not

necessarily with the last year.

 

Recommended: Physical exam, FeLV/FIV testing, fecal exam for giardia.

 

 

 

[macoduck]

Hokiebuck, I saw that info as well.

 

But I also found this online:

 

To follow is Dr. Jean Dodds' latest vaccination protocol

 

About Vaccination Protocols

 

It's great to share helpful information that might benefit our animal companions. However, sometimes the information may not be accurate and can create problems later on. That turns out to be the case with the "New Vaccination Protocols" post which continues to be widely circulated.

 

From experience, I find it best to verify important information prior to sending it on to others.

 

FYI, regarding that ‘vaccine protocol’ which is excerpted below– please be advised that it is NOT Dr. Jean Dodds’

 

" ... I would like to make you aware that all 27 veterinary schools in North America are in the process of changing their protocols for Vaccinating dogs and cats. Some of this information will present an ethical & economic challenge to Vets, and there will be skeptics. Some organizations have come up with a political compromise suggesting vaccinations every 3 years to appease those who fear loss of income vs. those concerned about potential side effects. Politics, traditions, or the doctors economic well-being should not be a factor in a medical decision..."

 

To follow is her reply to me regarding what is being circulated via the internet (again). She has since asked me to assist with this unfortunate situation and that's why I'm asking that this post be forwarded -- to let everyone know that the other post contains false information:

 

“Dear Helen: No , … This is the broadcast message sent around the world, or so it seems, LAST YEAR. It is not from me. I even got an e-mail from the AVMA last year asking where I got my information and data from ! Jean”

 

The enitre posting can be read here:

Dr Dodd's protocol

 

How do we know what the real deal is?

[Guest EmilyAnne]

*RABIES

There have been no reported cases of rabid dogs or cats in Harris, Montgomery or Ft. Bend Counties [ Texas ] but there have been rabid skunks and bats so the potential exists. It is a killed vaccine and must be given every year.

This surprises me. The last three vets I have had in the last ten years, have all reccomended Rabies every three years, not one year. It seems vet schools would be ahead of currently practicing vets as far as new info seeing as to how they are still in the in the process of very actively constantly learning stuff? (Not to say currently practicing vets do not upgrade their education and stay up to date on new research and etc., I am sure they do of course!) Why are vet schools behind instead? You would think it would be the other way around?

[CaliforniaGreys]

[Batmom]

I can't find any reference to such a protocol on AVMA or at any vet schools.

[Fudge]

*RABIES

There have been no reported cases of rabid dogs or cats in Harris, Montgomery or Ft. Bend Counties [ Texas ] but there have been rabid skunks and bats so the potential exists. It is a killed vaccine and must be given every year.

This surprises me. The last three vets I have had in the last ten years, have all reccomended Rabies every three years, not one year. It seems vet schools would be ahead of currently practicing vets as far as new info seeing as to how they are still in the in the process of very actively constantly learning stuff? (Not to say currently practicing vets do not upgrade their education and stay up to date on new research and etc., I am sure they do of course!) Why are vet schools behind instead? You would think it would be the other way around?

 

I think some states have different requirements. Like PA used to be Rabies annually by law but now it is every 3 years by law. Maybe

[Hubcitypam]

*RABIES

There have been no reported cases of rabid dogs or cats in Harris, Montgomery or Ft. Bend Counties [ Texas ] but there have been rabid skunks and bats so the potential exists. It is a killed vaccine and must be given every year.

This surprises me. The last three vets I have had in the last ten years, have all reccomended Rabies every three years, not one year. It seems vet schools would be ahead of currently practicing vets as far as new info seeing as to how they are still in the in the process of very actively constantly learning stuff? (Not to say currently practicing vets do not upgrade their education and stay up to date on new research and etc., I am sure they do of course!) Why are vet schools behind instead? You would think it would be the other way around?

Texas just went to three year rabies about 3 years ago, so I'm wondering if the article being circulated (or parts of it) are old. A few states still have 1 or two year rabies requirements. That whole sentence is just very random to me. If this is supposed to be a national protocol why does it specifically mention ONLY 3 counties near Houston? I'll bet you there are lots of other counties in Texas and the US that have had no reported cases of dog or cat rabies. It seems like it was lifted from somewhere....

[Fudge]

Here is an interesting article:

AVMA News

 

veterinarians should consider the severity of the disease, the geographic location of a clinic, the risk of transmission to the animal, the potential for a particular infection to be zoonotic, and the performance of the vaccine.

 

If you really want to be educated AAHA 2006 Vaccine Guidelines

 

 

[Guest Hokiebuck]

OOPPPSS

 

It appears I did something that actually usually irritates me. I circulated emailed information that I didn't first verify. I apologize!

[Guest luckydog]

OOPPPSS

 

It appears I did something that actually usually irritates me. I circulated emailed information that I didn't first verify. I apologize!

 

Maybe you could ask the Mods to delete this entire topic.

[CaliforniaGreys]

OOPPPSS

 

It appears I did something that actually usually irritates me. I circulated emailed information that I didn't first verify. I apologize!

I'm a little confused here. I know that Jean has been working on this for quite awhile. What is it that has not been verified?

[Hubcitypam]

Nancy Drew reporting in.

 

Things kept bothering me about this. Why would a research scientist call her collegues only by their last names in a protocol? Why would she insert personal opinions? The the lightbulb went off.

 

This "protocol" was almost certainly either wrtten by or lifted from OLD articles and speeches by Dr. Bob Rogers in Spring, Texas. He has long been an opponent of overvaccination. The quotes below are from an article he wrote in 2000. Hmmm. Look familiar? His name does appear in the bottom part of the article attributed to Dr. Dodd -- and it is an article, not a protocol.

 

'When an annual booster vaccination with a modified live virus vaccine (i.e. Distemper , Parvovirus or Fe Distemper) is given to a previously vaccinated adult animal - no added protection is provided. Modified live virus vaccines depend on the replication of the virus for a response. Antibodies from previous vaccines do not allow the new virus to replicate. Antibody titers are not boosted significantly, memory cell populations are not expanded. No additional protection is provided

 

...Politics, traditions, or the doctor's economic well being should not be a factor in medical decisions."

 

That also explains the random mention of the 3 counties (including Montgomery) near Houston being free of rabies. Part of Spring lies in Montgomery county...hmmmm In 2007 there were 12 dog and 14 cat cases of rabies out of 254 counties in Texas, not to mention the rest of the country. Dr. Dodd wouldn't mention those 3 counties, but a vet in Spring, TX would.

 

Someone either lifted or compiled some of Dr. Rogers old material and slapped Dr. Dodds name on it.

Edited November 26, 2008 by Hubcitypam

[Guest Greensleeves]

Here is an interesting article:

AVMA News

 

veterinarians should consider the severity of the disease, the geographic location of a clinic, the risk of transmission to the animal, the potential for a particular infection to be zoonotic, and the performance of the vaccine.

 

If you really want to be educated AAHA 2006 Vaccine Guidelines

 

Thank you for that link!

 

[Guest meakah]

We have been on the 3 year rabies vaccine for at least a decade...if not a lot longer...must be different in the US?

And many vets here have moved to 3 yr regular shots rather than annual. I give them every 3 years but even that I think is too much. I am glad things are starting to change.

[Guest ChasesMum]

oh gosh, at LEAST a decade. its been as long as I can remember all the time I've had animals (20 years). But Alberta in particular is also "rat free" and I think that helps contribute to it. Alberta seems to have pretty strict controls over things like that. Lots of research and things in indiginous fox and wolf populations etc, conservation blah blah maybe that plays a part?