Guest Peanut Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Since we were talking about holistic vets, Henry's mom asked what we experienced in taking Vernon there. Vernon has pretty big and scary seizures that last for days. Vernon's first appointment was 2/11/08. This is a note about the visit: Vernon saw the holistic vet yesterday afternoon. Dr. Timothy Fleck, in Noblesville, just northeast of Indy. Dr. Fleck is awesome! We were there for over 2 hours. He did the most thorough hands-on assessment I've ever seen any vet do, did a cranio-sacral assessment and acupuncture. During the 2 hours we were there, he was only out of the room (seeing other patients) for 15 minutes while the acupuncture needles were in. I had taken a whole stack of papers with me - everything CFG sent me, my medication and seizure logs, all Vernon's lab results, Cindy's assessment, etc - and Dr. Fleck went over every bit of it and discussed it with me. He is sure that Vernon does NOT have epilepsy, but that we are probably dealing with the aftermath of a head/brain injury (though he can't totally rule out a tumor, such as a meningioma. Vernon is very ADD, and never did settle down. He was also quite resistant to Dr. Fleck's manipulating his head and spine, as well as to the acupuncture needles. He is very unbalanced. We started him last night on Shen Calmer. (Dr. Fleck says his Shen is not attached.) I'm not terribly familiar with all the terminology of all the holistic modalities, so can't give you as complete a report as I'd like - Also, it's hard to remember everything that goes on in an intense 2 hour period, but as I said earlier, I was quite impressed. Dr. Fleck holds out no promises of significant improvement and agrees that if we can't make this boy a lot happier that we should let him leave, but he would like to see him again before we make that decision. I have another appointment set up with him on Mon, March 3. Meanwhile, we had a good night last night and have had a good day today. Since that first appointment, Foster mom really saw a huge difference in Vernon. The next round of seizures was over a month away, when they are typically 2 wks at the most apart. The seizures that lasted for days, only lasted a few hours. The only other change was that we had him talk to an animal communicator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EmilyAnne Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Awesome! One more question, how much did it cost? By the way, I suspect Henry had a brain trauma too. One one side he has several broken teeth, several scars on that same side, and after a long walk henry develops a sort of gait that tells me his shoulder on that side hurts. I know Henry's breed (lurcher) is often trained to run faster by running along side vehicles, and I think Henry was hurt this way, and this may be why he was so terrified of leashes when first rescued. (His records state that he was very scared of leashes at first) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burpdog Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Marilyn takes one of her seizure dogs for acupuncture. They did a special on holistic medicine in Houston back in 1999 (I think). The section on acupuncture was a dog that had many ER visits to treat seizures. He was doing very well. Quote Diane & The Senior Gang Burpdog Biscuits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peanut Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Cost... lots. Okay, so I don't really know and foster mom won't tell me. It is her gift to Vernon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnieAndRexsMom Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Yes, I believe that the accupuncture helped Vernon. I think the last I heard he was being cut back on the shen clamer or at least getting a smaller dosage. I have seen him at least three times since he went to foster mom's and I can attest that he is much improved. Vernon is a gorgeous boy, By the way, and his pictures don't do him justice Quote Tonya, mom to May, and my angels Vinnie, Rex, Red, Chase, and Jake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EmilyAnne Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 What is 'shen clamer'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnieAndRexsMom Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 shen calmer... I can't spell! from a google search: Chinese herb supplement intended to help with restlessness, anxiety, and restless sleep Shen Calmer: designed for disorders of Shen (the Spirit), chronic or acute restlessness, jumpiness, stall vices, anxiety made worse by sudden noise or surprise, and stress due to travel or confinement. Horses receiving Shen Calmer tend to be more relaxed, fidget less, travel better and work harder. They can also focus better on their riders, and riders can put more training and competing pressure on them without having them become nervous. Quote Tonya, mom to May, and my angels Vinnie, Rex, Red, Chase, and Jake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peanut Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 Thanks Tonya for filling in the blanks... I'm waiting on an update from foster mom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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