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I feel you frustration.

 

Hope it's a simple problem with an even simpler solution.

 

 

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My vet would never like to hear the word INTERESTING again in regards to Ryan. Everybody he has talked to has said it. He's talked to a lot of people.

 

All the testing from Monday came up with nothing - other than his liver is fine - which is good :) But they still don't know.

Tomorrow we go see another radiologist with a super duper ultrasound that can get some good images of Ryan's abdomen - which is still full of fluid - from one of the organs in there, but they don't know which one.

They are now looking for pheochromocytoma.

He's also leaking some protein through his kidneys - which can cause large clots around the body.

The clot in Ryan's neck I guess was about 4 vertebrae long. They think he has one in one of the organs in his abdomen which is causing this fluid.

 

So, the poor boy gets to be poked and prodded some more tomorrow.

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I am sorry you still have no definitive diagnosis. It IS good news about his liver. I hope they can figure this out after the next round of tests.

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Pheo generally causes hypertension, does he have high blood pressure?

 

Also, Topaz had liver disease. The regular chem panel they do for liver showed a normally functioning liver. It wasn't until we did special tests, liver function (as opposed to liver enzymes) tests and they were off the charts. Off the planet actually. Did they do liver tests above the normal chem panel?

 

 

Good luck with him.

 

 

 

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As someone already mentioned, pheochromocytoma usually causes hypertension. In people, the BP can go through the roof.

The good news is that usually, it's quite treatable.

Fingers crossed all is easily treatable and he feels better soon.

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OSU has been in the loop since the MRI - I'll be getting more info this afternoon from my vet to send to them now that we have results from Monday's testing.

Neurologists around the country and many internal medicine specialists around the country have also been contacted. There are actually several heads working on figuring Ryan out with many more being consulted as things are found or not.

 

The normal blood work usually doesn't really show liver issues unless your liver is pretty much dead. He did a normal panel to see if anything has changed since his MRI a month ago and did liver specific testing as well. Those showed perfectly fine results. Wouldn't know a damn thing was wrong with him based on all the blood tests that have been done on him.

 

So many things have been considered and tossed out the window. We can't just willy nilly treat him for things either.

Would be nice to get him off some of the meds he's on, but they are afraid to change anything yet for fear of pushing him over a cliff we don't know where is at.

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OSU has been in the loop since the MRI - I'll be getting more info this afternoon from my vet to send to them now that we have results from Monday's testing.

Neurologists around the country and many internal medicine specialists around the country have also been contacted. There are actually several heads working on figuring Ryan out with many more being consulted as things are found or not.

 

The normal blood work usually doesn't really show liver issues unless your liver is pretty much dead. He did a normal panel to see if anything has changed since his MRI a month ago and did liver specific testing as well. Those showed perfectly fine results. Wouldn't know a damn thing was wrong with him based on all the blood tests that have been done on him.

 

So many things have been considered and tossed out the window. We can't just willy nilly treat him for things either.

Would be nice to get him off some of the meds he's on, but they are afraid to change anything yet for fear of pushing him over a cliff we don't know where is at.

Are they thinking of doing a liver biopsy?

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I hope tomorrow's ultrasound gives you some kind of answer. Gentle scritchies to Mr. Ryan.

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Any word on the fluid results and could they drain it to give him some relief?

 

The fluid is being generated in the abdomen by one of the organs, but they cannot tell what organ. They think there may be a clot in one of the organs that is causing the fluid.

They can't drain it yet as doing it too quickly could cause him to collapse or just a slight pressure change could do it too from taking a bit off. So for now, Eeyore Pudge he is.

 

He doesn't seem to know he's still sick - he's happy as Ryan normally is. Back to playing a bit more, "talking" when he wants something bad enough (like dinner tonight - he had quite the song and dance for us). He's mostly back to normal visually other than a large abdomen and slow on walks and not being able to go quite as far as he could.

 

 

His neurosurgeon didn't tell us how big the clot in his neck was, but made it sound like they were small little things as she said they could have been small pieces of tumor. Our regular vet said it was large and gave us the report from his radiologist. Seems the clot in his neck, and makes sense now why the hell it was hurting him so badly, was at least the length of my hand!

He gave me the option of Monday of continuing with the neurosurgeon to diagnose this problem. I told him we liked him better... and his office is closer and in an emergency, he lives one street over from us - he could run here as quickly as he could drive here if we needed him to. He knows his stuff and he knows greyhounds very well (he worked with track greys when he was in the UK) and he's honest with us.

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