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Very, Very Sick Grey....no One Is Really Sure Why


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Our group adopted out a grey to a family, and he has become very ill. I know this is very lengthy, but please read and see if you have ever heard of anything like this before. Thank you on behalf of Casper and his family

 

Heath

 

 

First sign something was wrong.

Casper woke us up twice during the night very restless and wanting to go out (this was not like him. He usually slept thru the night0. The next day I noticed that Casper was having a difficult time getting up, and he seemed stiff and his muscles trembled. The next day it seemed worse so I took him to his regular vet who examined his stomach and legs and he tried to get Casper to sit. Casper could not sit without help. So vet gave him a shot for inflammation and said to see if that helped with possible strained muscles. This was May 29. Within the next 2 days Casper could hardly get up or down. He had also began to drool.

I had given Casper some raw food of which included chicken and bone for the past week or two and the vet became suspicious that perhaps he had salmonella or ecoli poisoning. He wanted to keep him over night to watch him the next day. The next day Casper quit eating and drinking. When I went to see Casper the vet said Casper was acting like a dog that was trying to die. The vet had done a super chem. CBC on Casper. Everything was normal except his white blood count was a little high but not real bad. He also had given him a combination injection of antibiotics. On Friday June 1, we took Casper to an emergency hospital for the weekend so he could be monitored and put on fluids. They also placed a catheter in his front leg.

Casper was in a lot of pain, and we had to carry him to the car. Fluid had run from his eyes, he was drooling a lot, was very weak and looked so sick. The vet said he had pitted edema. His legs did not look like a greyhound’s and his feet looked like a lab’s. We visited him twice a day over the weekend and he knew we were there but couldn’t move. The doctor said he cried out when she moved or touched his joints. He was placed on fluid therapy and received a metoclopramide injection, cefa drops, a buprenorphine injection and a dexamethasone injection. Monday morning June 4th he was feeling a little better. He was able to raise his head and wag his tail. We were so happy for him. We transported him back to his regular vet who kept him for the next 2 days. He did not know what was causing the edema and had ruled out samonella poisoning. He did another CBC clinic, continued fluid injections and gave him a B12 complex injection and a morphine injection .

Meanwhile, I was feeling like our vet was being to conservative and I felt the urgency to get some answers for a diagnosis. The next day June 6 we moved Casper to a specialist. He kept him over night and did an exam, complete profile w/CBC, tick panel and intensive care with fluids and various injections. Casper was eating very little because of his pain and was still running a fever. The next day the vet asked if we would be willing to take Casper to a surgeon to draw fluid samples from his joints to try to pin point a diagnosis since the tick panel came back negative. We did and the fluid, which is normally thin and clear, was thick and cloudy. The surgeon said we would have to wait till the pathologist diagnosed it and that something definitely was going on systematically. We took home with prednisone, simplicef, baytril, pepcid ac, and tramadol for pain.

The pathologist thinks something like a bacterial organism has caused Caspers immune system to attack itself and has localized in his joints causing a type of arthritis. They labeled it some kind of polyarthritis, but have not ruled out some type of tick organism, although the panel was negative. The vet wants to keep him on high does of prednisone plus the Simplicef and baytril anitbotics, and tramadol for another week.

Casper has lost 14 lbs and looks like a skeleton. He looks so sad. However, he has kept his fever down and has a good appetite and stool again. I feed him every 2 to 4 hours or whenever he will eat up until about 8 pm. He still has difficulty getting up and down and is still experiencing pain and drooling. He is only about 1 and ½ years old, a loveable, handsome white boy who was happy and healthy and weighted 70 lbs 2 weeks ago. No previous illness or signs that I know of.

 

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Have they considered organophosphate (pesticide) or mushroom poisoning? A lot of what you describe sounds a lot like that ......

 

Hugs and luck to the pupper.

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Have they considered organophosphate (pesticide) or mushroom poisoning? A lot of what you describe sounds a lot like that ......

 

Hugs and luck to the pupper.

 

I will pass that along, Thank you

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:hope:hope:hope:hope:hope

 

Sending lots of prayers and healing thoughts for Casper.

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Did you email this to Ohio State?

 

What TBDs did they cover in a tick "panel"? Did they try a shot of doxy? Many times they test negative and respond to doxy and pred.

 

 

Were he mine I'd do the shot of doxy with oral follow up at 5mg per # of body weight twice a day and see what happens. Also oral pred at 60mg devided in two doses of 30mg each. See if he responds.

 

If he does not respond to the doxy and pred, I would suspect an immune mediated disease and Ohio State should be able to help.

 

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Did they suspect autoimmune polyarthritis?

 

My Greyhound had it and her symptoms sound very simliar, except she didn't drool. Took 3 vets 2 months to diagnose her.

 

Good luck, I really hope he will be ok :hope

 

 

 

 

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Did you email this to Ohio State?

 

What TBDs did they cover in a tick "panel"? Did they try a shot of doxy? Many times they test negative and respond to doxy and pred.

 

 

Were he mine I'd do the shot of doxy with oral follow up at 5mg per # of body weight twice a day and see what happens. Also oral pred at 60mg devided in two doses of 30mg each. See if he responds.

 

If he does not respond to the doxy and pred, I would suspect an immune mediated disease and Ohio State should be able to help.

 

Diane,

 

I will pass this along, as I am sure that they have not contacted OSU or tried the doxy. I am also not sure as to what all was covered on the tick panel.

 

 

Did they suspect autoimmune polyarthritis?

 

My Greyhound had it and her symptoms sound very simliar, except she didn't drool. Took 3 vets 2 months to diagnose her.

 

Good luck, I really hope he will be ok :hope

 

I will have them ask their vet about this as well. Thanks

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I will pass this along, as I am sure that they have not contacted OSU or tried the doxy. I am also not sure as to what all was covered on the tick panel.

 

I'd try a doxy shot and follow up with oral. They will know within a week (assuming if this is a TBD that there has not been serious organ damage). Quite frankly, who cares what the TBD panel shows if this works.

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Sounds kind of like septic arthritis. Hopefully the samples of synovial fluid will be given a culture and sensitivity to determine the appropriate antibiotic if this is the case. Normally some sort of infection is required- sometimes surgery or an injury will allow strep or another bacterium in, but Merck says rickettsia (Rocky Mountain spotted fever, ehrlichiosis) and spirochetes (borreliosis) can also do it.

 

But the white blood cell count (WBC on any lab results you might have) isn't elevated?

 

Hopefully you have it on the run by now.

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Sending prayers,love and hugs your way. This is an unbelievable story. PLEASE keep us all updated.

 

 

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sounds scary.

 

My girl didn't have all those symptoms, but in her month of sickness she did have the edema, loss of appetite, and dehydration. Everything except one autoimmune disease test came back negative.

The day she died she had the excessive drooling and wouldn't move. But it was very quick, so i would imagine that the fact he has made is this far and is eating again is a good sign.

All of her TBD tests came back negative, but all the vets seemed toa gree that that might be a possibility for her cluster of strange symptoms.

 

I think everyone's advice for giving Doxy is a good choice.

 

I will be thinking good thoughts for the poor young guy.

 

 

 

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Did you notice any cuts or puncture wounds on him anywhere?

 

Just wondering if he could have stepped on or been poked by something and had some nasty bacteria introduced that way. :dunno

 

Good luck, Casper! :dogcookie

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I will pass this along, as I am sure that they have not contacted OSU or tried the doxy. I am also not sure as to what all was covered on the tick panel.

 

I'd try a doxy shot and follow up with oral. They will know within a week (assuming if this is a TBD that there has not been serious organ damage). Quite frankly, who cares what the TBD panel shows if this works.

 

I agree. Sending prayers for Casper. :hope

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i would also recommend redoing the tick pane. i hope the poor dog feels better soon.

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Also, isn't there a document from Dr. Stacy with normal greyhound values? I think this might help. Does anyone know where it is so that we can link it.

 

Other than that, I was agreeing with everyone else. I was thinking a TBD where the titres haven't had a chance to increase yet. Or autoimmune disease.

 

 

 

Contact OSU.

 

 

I just thought of something. Aren't TBD tests for the antibodies that the diseases cause? What if Casper can't make any ABs at all to the disease. Won't his titres be negative?

 

 

 

 

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I just thought of something. Aren't TBD tests for the antibodies that the diseases cause? What if Casper can't make any ABs at all to the disease. Won't his titres be negative?

 

 

yes, this is correct of titers. if one doesn't make antibodies, titers will test 0:0 and you could still be sick. the antigen is the sick itself.

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