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  1. Hi Everyone, Since adopting my dog over a year and a half ago, I have gone through a few health issues. Despite all this he is a proper character and is spritely for a Grey! My first Greyhound so it was quite a learning curve for both of us. My Greyhound had a corn since I got him, its located on the left front leg, inside toe where he has had a nail removed (never grown back). He must of been injured fairly badly as his racing record shows over a year off the track - retiring at 4. This is also evident by a scar at the top of left leg/chest. Long story short, after numerous tries to remove and manage the corn I went down the flexor tenotomy route. Dog had a massive reaction to anesthetic and I nearly lost him, a transfusion and 3 days in emergency care luckily seemed to save him. This flexor scar itself recovered well and corn looks to be reducing (6 weeks post op). He has always intermittently seemed to "limp" or put more weight on the front right, hence my decision to go with surgery thinking the corn on front left was causing the issue. Post surgery he is still seems to bear a bit more weight on the right front leg, this may only be twice on a walk. The best way I could describe it is like a strange gait or slight intermittent hobble? the dog has never lifted the leg itself and will put weight down the whole walk. The dog shows no signs of pain when flexing the leg or moving the wrists/toes/pads etc, he will run and jump around in the house doing the mad 5 minutes, jump in the car.. This is just something I notice occasionally on walk every now and then. I have also recalled seeing it once after a playful running around session, I let him off regular and it wont happen every time. He seems otherwise happy, lively and healthy. He will come on long walks with me and doesn't slow up or ever refuse to walk. I would say I notice it more on the morning walk, although I am not 100% He has been vet checked on multiple occasions and they can't seem to find any obvious signs of pain when doing a physical assessment, obviously all feet have been checked thoroughly for corns and nothing has flagged. The vet I use are well regarded and are the main vet for my local greyhound rescue group. Due to the bad reaction and poor health from the anesthetic previous, I am reluctant to put him under again to investigate this further if not necessary. I have spent every penny I own to keep him alive post op and I am not in a financial situation to spend thousands more. I feel frustrated and at a bit of a loss at what to do? My worry is that I question myself whether he is struggling and I am just being ignorant. Has anyone out there ever had a hound that was previously injured and has just accepted that the dog will always have a distinct hobble or quirk etc.? I am naturally an overthinker anyway , in hindsight I maybe should of chose a more "hardy" breed. Any info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated Many thanks!
  2. Hi there, Does anyone have experience with getting their hound's corn hulled at the vets? How much did it cost and was it worth it??? Thanks!!
  3. As you may know Grace suffers with corns. She has three on three different toes of one front foot and two on one toe of the other and we have tried different remedies for the last two years since they appeared. For the last six or seven months I have been taking her to one of the various the parks near me in the car so she doesn't walk on any hard ground, and using a dog nail grinder I've been grinding the corns and her nails down when she jumps into the back of the car before we go to the park. (It saves me bending down ) If she has to walk on hard ground I've been putting a baby sock over her foot and then her boot. The baby sock keeps her claws together, including her dew claw, and makes putting the boot on easier. This morning she didn't want to jump into the car and instead wanted to walk to the park on the pavement/sidewalk with no boots on
  4. from an e-mail sent to Greyhound Health Initiative members: August is Corn Research Month The Greyhound Health Initiative (GHI) knows that corns are a problem for many of our Sighthounds. Because research is an important part of our mission, GHI is collaborating with Richard Doughty, DVM and Frode Lingass, DVM with the Norwegian University of Life Sciences with a study to help determine if there is a genetic link associated with the occurrence of paw pad corns. We need volunteers to help collect DNA samples as well as donors to help fund this research project. We would like to obtain DNA samples from retired racing greyhounds with corns as well as separate control DNA samples from greyhounds over 8 years old without corns. It has been noted that the vast majority of corns surface prior to 8 years old, therefore greyhounds over 8 years old will give us a valid negative control. The DNA samples are to be collected from saliva swabs obtained by simply swabbing the inside of the greyhound’s mouth using a specially designed collection tube that stabilizes the DNA. This is a painless and stress-free collection that takes 20 seconds to complete and most greyhounds barely know it occurred. GHI needs to collect samples from at least 100 greyhounds with corns and at least 100 swabs from greyhounds without corns and over 8 years of age. GHI will ship these samples to Norway for data collection and to be analyzed. Postage will be expensive so we would like to send overseas in bulk. We will need greyhound volunteers along with your support to make this project happen. We need volunteers to collect samples and the best part is that you do not need to be a veterinarian to collect these samples! You can get together with your adoption groups, greyhound friends or at greyhound events to collect the samples. GHI would like to ship each volunteer at least 10 swabs (more would be great but less becomes cost prohibitive) You will be provided the swabs, a detailed instruction sheet, a link to a “how to” video and a form to collection information and consent. We are hoping to get equal numbers of samples from hounds with and without corns so we are not left with too many or too few from each group. Once you’ve collected all your samples, you simply mail them back to GHI (we can cover this shipping cost, if needed). Once GHI has collected a large sampling of swabs, they will be sent to Norway in bulk, which as you can imagine can be quite expensive. Which brings us to our second request! We need donations to cover the cost of this invaluable research project. We have an initial goal of $5000.00 to cover shipping around the US, shipping to Norway and to purchase the specially designed collection tubes that are required for this project. No amount is too small or too great! As a special incentive, everyone who donates toward this project will be entered in a chance to win a one-year GHI Hero membership! Simply put Corn Research Project in the memo when you donate. If you know hounds afflicted with corns and you are interested in collecting samples, email trina@greyhoundhealthinitiative.org If you’d like to make a donation, click the donate button here.
  5. All, Kevin just turned 11 in December. He is having mobility issues that are worsening in recent months, particularly the last several weeks. It think he may have Lumbosacral stenosis. His current symptoms are an increasingly sinking/weak back end when standing still (such as when eating), difficulty rising, difficulty managing his rear legs when getting off of the sofa, shakiness on soft surfaces, knuckling under on occasion (which he is still able to correct), occasionally dragging a rear leg a little, general stiff movement, stiffness in his rear end (trying to turn around he can become somewhat unstable and catch a rear foot). He has complicating factors in the form of front foot issues. Years ago he broke two toes- on on each foot, weight bearing toes- in separate incidents. We learned a lot from the first and the second healed beautifully. He then split the webbing on each front foot at different times. He then developed a corn on one foot about 2 years ago that we have been managing with hulling. But the first broken toe has become very enlarged and arthritic over the past year or two. It is pressing into the adjacent non weight bearing toe and causing a sore that we can never really get to stay completely healed. So figuring out his mobility issues is complicated by the front feet issues. About 3-4 years ago he had issues with urine leakage in the evening. Eventually we threw out the non-supportive beds he loved and made him use supportive beds and that seemed to resolve the issue. In the past six months to year or so, he had occasionally been pooping in the house right after pooping outside. We blamed it on supplements that had aloe or held water and removed them. While that helped, it didn't resolve it. A few months ago we put him on a daily NSAID as he was having the front feet issues and the vet suggested that if his back hurt, maybe he couldn't completely empty when pooping. I also wondered if he was starting to lose his marbles a little. The NSAID seemed to help, along with monitoring him to make sure he poops outside fully before coming in. We are keeping him lean. And we bought him a twin size memory foam mattress so that he has the best support when sleeping at night. In addition to the NSAID already mentioned, Kevin has been getting cold laser treatments over the past few months, usually once a week, and they do seem to help some. He feels better after. We also added Gabapentin this week. We start acupuncture on Tuesday. I feel that he is starting to decline more rapidly and I am concerned about the speed of the decline and the practical aspects of managing a 90lb boy once his mobility becomes truly limited. What other options have you all found to be effective with symptoms like this?
  6. Hey everyone, We adopted our 5 year old grey last April. She's been an amazing pup, but has been struck by a massive corn in her left hind leg. She's been lame for nearly a month while we waited for it to form, and now has a pulled groin as a consequence of it all. The corn was hulled today. Leading up to the procedure, she's been incredibly aggressive when approached and touched lying down. We've avoided triggering her this way as much as possible. But unfortunately - she never growls, resorting immediately to snaping & biting. She bit a friend recently and now she's become aggressive when I attempt to treat and moisturize her paws. Even muzzled, she still manages to nip me. I'm wondering if anyone has some suggestions on curbing her pain-aggression and managing her pain. I'm going to try treating her paws standing up. Any and all help is appreciated. Before this, we had absolutely no behavioural problems with her. Thanks, M
  7. Apologies if this has appeared before. I had to take Grace to the vets two weeks ago because she was limping badly. The vet said it was a corn and suggested operating as a possibility which I declined as it hadn't worked previously. I asked if it was worth trying Bazuka (a proprietary corn treatment for humans)? He said he couldn't recommend it but don't let her lick it and to come back 10 days later. 10 days later I saw a different vet at the same practice who used to be a vet at the greyhound tracks and doesn't believe surgery is the answer to everything. She hulled the corn and found a very small piece of grit in it. Checking her other paws she found another with a bit of grit slowly starting to embed itself. She suggested that brushing her pads with a dry toothbrush when she comes from a walk to remove any very small sharp objects. So I now brush her pads with an old toothbrush when she come back from a walk. Treat her existing corns with Bazuka at night and cover with an old sock to stop licking it. Covering the corns in the daytime with duck tape. Oh!...and keeping my finger crossed.
  8. I can't believe I'm writing this, but I think we may have found a cure for our greyhounds' corns! Our 9-year-old female, Joy, has had terrible corns for the past year or so. It got so bad that she was lame on one leg and could barely walk even with pain medication. We tried everything (hulling, duct tape, Gorilla tape, Burt's Bees, O'Keeffe's, azithromycin, ichthammol, lysine, Kerasol), but nothing helped. Then we ran into a pediatrician at a greyhound event, who told us how he treated his greyhound with cimetidine (brand name Tagamet), which has been used in humans to treat viral warts (see, for example, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14693487).He gave his girl 400mg cimetidine every 12 hours for 6 weeks, after which he reduced the dose to 200mg every 12 hours for 4 weeks. He didn't start to see an effect until 5 weeks of treatment, but now she's completely corn free! We're just past 5 weeks with Joy, and I'm thrilled to report that her corns are much better! In fact, they've all but disappeared on three of her paws, and the worst one is shrinking. We're still hulling it, but each time the size of the hulled corn is smaller. And Joy can walk again without pain medication! We still use booties to protect her paws outside (a combination of Therapaws/Slicks/Neopaws in the summer and Voyagers K9 in the winter), but she can walk and run inside without any booties at all. I can't begin to express how grateful we are! If you wish to try this treatment, my only caution would be to check with your vet first. He or she may want to do blood tests to make sure your grey's liver and kidney values are okay. You might also want to do followup blood tests partway through treatment to make sure your pup is tolerating it okay. We haven't noticed any ill effects, but every dog is different. Also, since cimetidine is an acid reducer, it could potentially affect digestion and/or absorption of other medicines. In any case, if you have a greyhound who is suffering from corns, please discuss this with your vet! Here's the link for generic cimetidine at Walgreens, which is what we're using: https://www.walgreens.com/store/c/walgreens-cimetidine-200-acid-reducer-tablets/ID=prod6022304-product
  9. Hi everyone! Our girl has an appointment tomorrow afternoon with a new vet who is experienced in corn hulling (our current vet will only do it under anesthesia -- so yeah, there's no way). He wants to do a comprehensive exam first and then will give me a quote on the cost of the procedure. This new vet has very good reviews online, except that he is very expensive. I was just wondering if there is anyone out there who can give me an idea of a reasonable price for this procedure (or how much you were charged by your vet)? I'm trying to avoid sticker-shock. :-) I know there are a lot of greyhound owners who do their own hulling, but our girl is so fidgety with her feet that I'm afraid of stabbing her and forever traumatizing her. She has 3 corns that I have identified, one on her front right paw, and one each on her back two paws. One of them on her back side is very very ready for hulling, it's sticking out above the surface of the pad. The one on her front right paw causes her the most limping, but is also the smallest and smoothest. I know the back paw corns also hurt her -- it's most obvious at the dog park when she seems almost wobbly when she walks onto the gravel path (she definitely prefers grass). But the front paw she will hold up sometimes when standing on hard surfaces (most of our house). I'm just hoping the hulling will provide her some immediate relief, even if they are likely to return. Thanks in advance!
  10. Just wanted to give a big thanks to everyone who has contributed to the variety of corns posts out there. My boy was really suffering yesterday, so I Epsom salt soaked his paw, then put some bag balm and wrapped it in a plastic bag and the next morning (today) he is SO much better. Anyway, if anyone is looking for a quick corns resource here are links to several Grey Talk threads on corns. http://forum.greytalk.com/index.php/topic/198277-greyhound-corns/ http://forum.greytalk.com/index.php/topic/231694-treating-corns/ http://forum.greytalk.com/index.php/topic/288777-corn-hulling-by-a-vet-what-to-expect/ http://forum.greytalk.com/index.php/topic/304712-corns/ http://forum.greytalk.com/index.php/topic/267023-duct-tape-on-corns/
  11. My 3 years old greyhound has started limping about 3 weeks ago. The first thing I did is to check her foot/pads to see if there wasn't any sign of injury there. I couldn't really see anything except one tiny little dark dot on one of her pad. I took her to the vet who checked her foot, leg etc. and couldn't find anything obvious. She wasn't worried about the tiny dot. I left that day with Deramaxx for a week. The medication really helped the limp but when I ran out, it came back as bad as it was. Also, I have to mention the limp is not consistent. Sometimes, it's very subtle, sometimes it's severe to the point where she stops and lifts her foot. Long story short, I got x-rays done and everything came back normal. This morning, I noticed the small dot on her pad got a little bigger and the color around it has changed as well. I looked at images of corns on the web but the appearance seem to vary so much, it's hard to know for sure if we're dealing with that. After the x-rays, the vet recommended that I rest her for 2 weeks (5 mins walks, no jumping, no stairs) and if things don't get better in a few weeks, she wants me to see an orthopedic vet. This has been quite expensive so far, I really want to get a second opinion on her foot before I go see a specialist. It just doesn't look right to me. I hope the links to the photos will work... is it a corn we're dealing with? Wet pad: https://goo.gl/photos/N8kUuHm6p3D5Zc1U6 Dry pad: https://goo.gl/photos/qagH6h7KR1Qrnrc26 Dry pad: https://goo.gl/photos/VjX7wepz9kR4N9gA8 Thanks in advance for your feedback!
  12. Echo is our first greyhound and spent her first time at a kennel 2 weeks ago. When she came home we noticed a slight limp in her rear right leg. We figured she likely pulled something running zoomies during her play time. It's been about a week now, and based on my research she has the symptoms of a corn forming. I wanted to get some second opinions though. Please see the image below and let me know what you think. http://imgur.com/3j9jQQ6
  13. Hi all, I hope you don't mind me joining your great forum but I am in desperate need of some advice and it seems like greyhound owners could be my best shot at some balanced opinion. I have a 6.5 y/o Mastiff who weighs in around 85kg. He is now classed as an OAP as giant breeds typically do not live beyond 8 years of age. The past few days my partner and I have noticed some slight, intermittent limping but other than that he has been fine. Last night I took him to the vets (expecting him to have developed a bit of arthritis) and they have said he has corns on both front feet (main, central pads). The placement of the corns aren't on the flat central area but rather on the edge of the pad almost in the gap between his toes. The vet has referred us to a specialist to have them surgically removed. Due to his size and advanced age they do not want to do it themselves as there is a chance we will lose him on the table which has happened to a good number of Mastiff-owning friends so we are naturally reluctant to put him through this at his age. Ultimately, I won't let him suffer and if surgery is the right thing to do I will do it but it seems very extreme to go down this route when there could be other options we could try first. Additionally, my research tells me corns can always come back so I don't really want to risk the his life for an operation on something that might come back in future. I'm particularly interested in any other methods of management/treatment that you all have experience of. I've read on another site about things like cider vinegar, lemon juice, pumice stones and even baking soda mixed in water as a bath for the feet. I think with his advancing years and size I would like to at least try managing the corns initially because they don't seem to bother him too much before going down the surgical route. Either way I will at least take him to the specialist for a second opinion as you can never have too much advice but definitely interested in anything the members on this forum might have tried with their own pets. Any advice is greatly appreciated - we are worried sick about having him operated on. Thanks so much, Paul.
  14. My Henry has been bothered by corns for the last 6-7 months. I have found a vet that hulls them for me, but it seems the time betwwen hulling is getting shorter and shorter. My vet told me that his corn is the worst she has seen. I bought some wartade but I don't know when to apply it. Any suggestions? I just got his corn hulled and it is now covered with duct tape.
  15. I apologize for the length of this post, but it is a long story. In March 2008, my DH and I adopted our first retired greyhound, who was 2.5 years old at the time. We picked him because he was soooo happy to see us when he was brought into the adoption agency's office that he smacked his tail into the walls and started bleeding all over the place. We took him home (with his happy tail all bandaged up) and began our adventure. We also adopted a sweet and playful girl 6 months later, directly from the racetrack. Before I get to the bad stuff, let me tell you what we love about our boy. He is always at the door happy to see us when we get home. He loves booty-rubs. He loves belly rubs. He loves treats and due to his great food motivation, he was easy to train. He is very obedient, and will lay down on the rug and "stay" while we prepare his food, and won't get up until we say "okay." He always is happy to greet our friends and family (and the exterminator, and the pizza delivery guy, and the plumber), well anybody really…maybe a little too enthusiastically, but he never puts his paws on anybody (he is a really big boy and could easily knock a person down). He sleeps all night long and keeps a very regular schedule. He has never attempted to get on the couch or our bed (we don't allow that, but he's never even tried). He loves walks and car rides, even to the vet. He always reminds me when it's dinnertime (and then I tell him how much time he has to wait because he usually thinks it's dinnertime and hour or more before it really is). Anyway, 99.9% of the time he's an absolute angel, and a perfect model greyhound. The other 0.1% of the time it's like he is possessed by demons. Since we first brought him home he's shown aggression in certain situations, which we attributed to space aggression or annoyance (he snapped at my DH in the adoption office when he came too close to him when he was laying in the bed, went for our vet's head when she was examining him the week we brought him home, he snapped at my uncle when he came too near his crate, bit our 5 year old nephew on the ear when he was telling him to "lay down", snapped at our niece when she was trying to pet him lying down, the list goes on). We always warn guests to leave the dogs (especially him) alone, and we keep a very close eye on visiting young children. So you are probably thinking, no big deal--that is a totally normal reaction for a greyhound. The problem is he gives no warning signs, no growling, no getting up and away from the situation, no warning bark -- he skips all that and goes straight for blood. The first really scary episode was when I was putting a coat on him to go outside when it was cold. Everything was fine, then suddenly he lunged for my face and hit me with his nose so hard on my cheekbone that he broke the skin and drew blood. So I attributed it to being my fault, he must not have wanted to wear the coat. (It's not like it was a new experience that I was throwing him into). Two and a half years ago the first really serious attack happened. I had just given the dogs their Frontline and he went into the bedroom, laid on his bed and roached. I found him and told him to "roll over" so that the Frontline wouldn't soak into the bed. So he did, and I said "good puppy" and reached down to pet him and he suddenly bit my hand. I said "NO" and he got up and lunged for me, biting me in three more places (my armpit, my chest, my abdomen). He doesn't just snap, he lunges at you lightning-fast, snarling like a demon and bites down HARD and shakes his head like he's trying to kill prey. After that, we took him to the vet. He had bloodwork done, and the vet attributed his aggression to low thyroid levels. So he got on L-Thyroxine and we went on with life. Again--99.9% of the time he has no issues with space--that was only when we first adopted him. He can (usually) be pet laying down, while eating, even while chewing a rawhide. Not that we generally do those things, but every once in a while we do to keep him accustomed to it. We always leave them alone when sleeping, but he was wide awake in this instance and obeying a command. He has also attacked our girl greyhound, at least once. We didn't witness what happened but heard his demonic snarl and her screaming. They usually get along just fine. Once I came home to find a 4X3" chunk of skin hanging from her side like a big flap--we don't know what happened but our boy is still a suspect. That incident required about 10 stitches. He went through a really good year or so after getting on medication (apart from lunging after my grandfather when he was teasing him by pulling his feet--understandable, but still without warning). Then this past March, my DH gave him a hug in the morning (which he normally doesn't do, but it was dark and he thought it was our other dog). When he turned on the light and saw who it was, he said "good boy" and pet him, and our dog suddenly turned and attacked him, grabbed him by the throat, then grabbed his abdomen and shook. His belly is seriously scarred. We then took our dog back to the vet, found his medication needed to be slightly increased, so we put him on the next higher dosage. Just an aside--he gets lots of physical affection, I hug him all the time and he acts happy about it, he usually is on his best behavior before breakfast time so I don't have any idea why he flipped out other than maybe morning grumpiness. But again -- there was no warning. Which brings us to the present day (well, this past week). A couple of weeks ago I diagnosed our dogs with having corns. They have both been limping for months, the vet couldn't find anything (we even had x-rays done). Oddly enough, our boy tolerates having his feet handled much better than our girl, who fidgets, pulls away and gets up and leave (which seems like pretty appropriate behavior). I decided to go back to doing their nails myself so I could get them shortened gradually, and treating their corns. I ordered a Dremel, which is what the vet assistants use on them, but I set about getting them acclimated to it anyway in case they may associate bad things with it. Our boy has always been an angel when he gets his nails done at the vet's office, but I don't trust him anyway (obviously) so I went slowly. He was perfect, I ended up Dremelling all of his nails three separate times last week with him laying down on the rug (Dremel on low, just to get him used to it more than to make a big dent in his nail length). He just laid there, and got a treat after I was finished with each paw. I gave him lots of praise, everything was all wonderful and I was really happy with him. Then I got some callus cream to rub into the pads of their feet. Again, he was a perfect angel and just lay there while I carefully rubbed in the cream. Which brings us to Saturday. I intended to give him the callus cream again, but first I wanted to feel his pads with my fingers like I'd been doing to get him used to the touch. I didn't get very far, before I knew it his teeth were heading toward my face and I turned, put my arms over my face and he went for the back of my head three times but couldn't get a grip so he grabbed me by the shoulder and shook until my DH yelled "NO!", threw a shoe at him and chased him out of the room. I don't know why he flipped out that time and not the very first time I messed with his feet -- the only difference was that my DH was home. And I didn't make him aware of the presence of treats, though they were there on the coffee table. Anyway, I have a very sore shoulder with lots of scabbed-over teeth marks, but my shirt offered some protection from his teeth going too deep so there wasn't too much blood. But I am having trouble writing this one off on his thyroid condition. Which brings us to our dilemma. What to do? We absolutely cannot trust him, he is dangerous and unpredictable. We love him, but we cannot live with him, and I don't know if there is anybody out there who *would* want a dog like him. We see our options as A) Return him to the greyhound adoption agency (if they even will take him--he'd have to be very very very carefully rehomed to the right person, with plenty of warnings), or option B: Put him down. My DH will be calling our adoption agency when they open tomorrow to see what they recommend, but I wanted to get the opinion of other greyhound owners. I don't want option B, but I have to accept it as a possibility. I know there will be people who do not agree with putting down a mostly-wonderful dog, but how long do we go on being mauled and putting our friends and family at risk? I know there have been dogs who have been put down after the very first attack, and he's had 3 serious ones and countless minor ones. My question is: Is there anybody who would take a dog like this? Would any adoption agency in their right mind take him back? He can be sooo good most of the time, but when he's bad he's a seriously dangerous liability. What we are doing in the meantime: My DH called the vet this morning, who recommended more bloodwork. So I'll be bringing him in tomorrow. P.S. I anticipate replies asking how we discipline him after these attacks. First we banish him from the pack for at least 3 days. He doesn't eat in the house, he doesn't sleep in the bedroom ("den") with us. We don't speak to him. We don't look at him. We give him no attention whatsoever. He is the invisible dog. When we accept him back in, he is always on his very best behavior. Our general routine is the "Nothing in Life is Free" approach--the dogs have to lay down and stay while food is being prepared, until they are released to eat. They have to wait at the door while I open it, and cannot go outside until I say "okay." We usually fail at the "no petting on demand" though. It's hard when a cute dog lays their head on your lap and looks at you with sad eyes. In general though, they are both well-trained, and they are not spoiled brats.
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