A few years for the first one, a few months for the second one. Heheheh
I am delighted to read your post. I live just north of Fre'burg in south Stafford. Leeland Station to be exact. See, you move and you get an instant close resource. I was lucky enough to adopt my current girlie from a Florida prison program, but there are several great close by groups. Greyt Expectations being one of them.