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Was she vaccinated when spayed? Possible acute vaccinosis?? TBD crisis? Hard to tell without HCT, PLT & RBC & WBC.
She was, yes.
I was told the blood panel done by the e-vet came back totally within normal ranges.
Still waiting to hear when she's arrived at Ocean State...
When was she wormed and with what?Did she have heartworm medicine or flea treatment right before this happened?
She had iverhart max, and wasn't due for heartworm/frontline again for another few weeks.
They swear they don't think she got anything, but it still happens. Heck, like Heather said, it could be something from the track too.
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OK, I'm making a list of things to run through with the new vet. Thanks guys.
She was on pain meds after she spay, but hasn't been on them in week's time or so. I'll confirm with the foster home.
There was some discussion about mushrooms in her yard and her possibly eating some, but neither vet saw any signs of poisoning. Could be that they've missed something.
She's been on IV fluids, flagyl, anti-vomiting meds and that's all that I know of - the vet seemed to think the mottling was because of the stomach being so stretched. But that sounded like a guess to me. ??
We've used Ocean State before and they've been top notch, so I'm hoping they can pick up on something that the other two vets missed.
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I'm a bit surprised they have waited so long to open her up.
Sending prayers.
It's just about 24 hours from her initial symptoms. Neither vet mentioned anything about surgery at this point - she's heading to the 24-hour care vet now, I'll inquire about exploratory surgery.
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Sandy needs some help!
Last night the foster home called and said that Sandy had been vomiting with diarrhea most of the afternoon. We got her to the e-vet, who put her on fluids, took blood work, etc. She was lethargic and largely unresponsive. Everything came back normal.
Today, the regular vet today continued with fluids and took X-rays and said that her stomach is hugely distended with gas, and there's some "mottling" of the stomach wall (I think that's what he said?). He said it's not normal, but he has no idea what it is. They haven't totally ruled out a blockage, though it wasn't apparent from the X-ray.
She's being moved now to a 24-hour care facility in RI because the regular vet was worried she's not going to make it through the night. She's getting worse instead of better. They're testing for pancreas function and Addison's disease.
Sandy was spayed 2 weeks ago, after a haul from Tri-State. She's just 2 years old, all shots up to date and was wormed.
Any ideas? What else should we be testing for? I feel like we're running out of time to figure out what's going on.
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Re: the comments today: Has she lost weight recently?
Our first grey was built a lot like Gina - very lean. You can certainly try to feed her more, but honestly, I thought she looked fine. Some greys just show more rib than others.
I've never been able to get Berk back up to his racing weight until recently - 3 years after retiring - and I think it's just because he's getting older. He raced at 72 and hovered right around 68/69 for a long time (and we fed him tons!). He's now right at 72.
So, I wouldn't worry too much about it as long as she's not dropping any weight, she may just be one of those greys that stay trim!
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Sorry--disagree about it being a high dose--she's only giving 0.4mgs twice daily to a 55lb dog (assuming she is truly hypothyroid). Really need to see what her T4 is on that dose in about a month (remember to have the blood draw 4-6 hours after you give the tablet).
I read it as 0.8 2x's a day. You're right, 0.4mg is more in line with a suitable dose, but I have to wonder if there are no symptoms and no TSH, why the need for supplementation?
I'll ask that as well
Her T4 has been going down each year so maybe that's why
Part of that could be the fluctuation in the test accuracy? Not sure.
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Sorry--disagree about it being a high dose--she's only giving 0.4mgs twice daily to a 55lb dog (assuming she is truly hypothyroid). Really need to see what her T4 is on that dose in about a month (remember to have the blood draw 4-6 hours after you give the tablet).
I read it as 0.8 2x's a day. You're right, 0.4mg is more in line with a suitable dose, but I have to wonder if there are no symptoms and no TSH, why the need for supplementation?
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I buy only soloxine (brand) and get it from Omaha Vaccine. Vet is correct. What dose will she be on?
.8 mg (half a pill twice a day)
I just read:
usual dose in dogs is 0.1mg per 10 pounds
She's only 55 lbs so I wonder why such a high dose? Maybe it will help with her whining
That's a lot as a starting dose. Heck, that's a high dose, period.
What was her T4? TSH?
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Oh no.
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Wow, this sounds exactly like our situation!
Here is a previous thread:
http://forum.greytalk.com/index.php?showtopic=170595&hl=
She also came to us missing a toe and had a broken hock.
I would take it conservatively as you can. We soft splint for 3-4 weeks each time, and then leash walk only after that for a few MONTHS, to give the ligaments time to heal up. In fact, after our last episode, she is on leash-walking only restriction. Haven't had an issue since.
Therapaws did nothing to help, as she refused to wear them.
And the working theory is that the change in her gait from the broken hock is causing the problem. Who knows though!
If you have any other questions, feel free to PM me. I'm a toe expert now.
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I would not be afraid to try her on thyroid meds. You'll know in six weeks to two months if that's the ticket.I think meds was the right decision for Indy because he was showing other symptoms. My dilemma with Honey is that she doesn't have any other symptoms.
Right, that was my point. Without true indication of thyroid issues, there's no point in just "trying" them to see if they will solve the hairloss issue. Because, in fact, most will grow hair back even if thyroid wasn't the cause.
I wasn't arguing whether or not Indy needed meds, because by most indications he probably did, just that the 'try and see' method doesn't do much good in cases that don't have clinical reasoning because you're not actually getting at the root of the problem. You've just now got a furry dog.
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Yeah, but most dogs will grow hair with thyroid supplements, so I'm not sure that's a good indication of thyroid problems.
I would probably do a full panel with TSH just to be sure. Shedding is one thing, but actual hair loss seems a little drastic for a seasonal coat change.
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Try xanax instead of elavil. I know with Tootsie, valium was worthless as was melatonin & rescue remedy. My vet makes a combination of bach flowers that works better than just rescue remedy and if you want herbal, Calm Spirity by Health Concerns takes the edge off. It must be ordered by a vet or MD.
Xanax is what we used for thunderstorms, and it worked well.
Elavil is long-term anxiety meds, not a once and a while sort of thing.
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One of my dogs tested positive for giardia with her annual stool sample check.
She definitely doesn't have diarrhea. No one else has diarrhea, either.
My vet is going to have me treat the whole pack, including two fosters. Is it routine to treat without symptoms?
And how contagious is it really? Does anyone know? (like, if I had a play date at my house, are those dogs now at risk?)
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Oh no! What happened?
Unmuzzled play turned ugly.
He's back with us and is doing fine. But it was an avoidable situation.
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Unfortunately, I have another addition to this list (one surrendered back to the group):
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There is nothing about the greyhound that makes it particularly dangerous at the dog park versus any other dog. For a dog that is demonstrably small-dog (and cat safe), going to the dog park shouldn't pose any more risk to the other animals than any other dog.
I have to disagree with this statement
Even if a greyhound is small dog & cat safe in a home, in their own environment all bets are off in a different location.
Some just have a higher chase instinct in a more open setting. So if little fluffy goes zipping by and your normally small animal safe hound sees it the chances are much higher that hound is going to chase.
It's in their training, it's in their blood, it's what they were born and bred to do.
Not only that, but for some reason it seems that greyhounds are disproportionally the target of aggression. How many greys have been attacked by dogs out on leash? I don't have any proof, but it really seems like they end up at targets frequently.
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One example of a dislocated toe (right most toe):
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Wow, Fritofeet, that's exactly what it looks like!
Well, x-rays yesterday show no break, no dislocation.
So we're doing a course of antibiotics, icing, and metacam and see what happens. Yesterday he looked like he had one St. Bernard's paw, it had swelled up so much. Today is better, he's back to looking like the first picture I posted.
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Well, I'm glad someone's seen this before because it's a lot more swelling then he had with his first broken toe!
I swear, each time I look at it, it looks bigger.
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I agree - without x-rays, it's a crap shoot.
The vet didn't closely look, but I gave it a good once over before bringing him in. Didn't see anything, no punctures or anything like that apparent.
I think what worries me the most is the swelling up the foot - it seems to be spreading and getting worse.
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I'm almost positive that's what it is, but the vet turned me away with pain meds, antibiotics and a "wait and see" diagnosis. It wasn't my regular vet, and I was kicking myself when I got home for not pushing for the x-rays now.
What do you think? Could it be just a strain/sprain with that much swelling? The vet was worried that it was an abcess (hence why we got the clavamox). The one toe is big, and he also has a lot of swelling up at the "top" joint of the toe.
I'm giving it until tomorrow morning and if he's still hobbling, I'm bringing him back in. My regular vet will be in tomorrow.
(and this would be his second busted toe
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If anything I would guess the doxy is acting as an antiobiotic and not anti-inflammatory, given that pred is a good anti-inflammatory already.
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It's very possible. The SNAP 3dx is only Lyme and Ehrlichia canis - there are a lot of other TBDs out there, for sure.
The PCR was all the others, including valley fever, babesia, rocky mountain, bartonella (sp?) etc.
Right. So a negative SNAP doesn't really tell you anything much, except that he's negative for those two particular TBDs.
How much longer until the PCR is back?
I'm so sorry.
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Sick Foster - Vomiting/diarrhea/lethargy/dehydration
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She's in with the vet now getting his first evaluation. The vet also has a greyhound of his own, so that's a bonus!