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  1. I took a look at the Serta bed online at Sam's Club. It looks good and gets mostly good reviews, but the internal dimensions seem like they would be kind of small for a long legged grey who likes to stretch out. Plus, it seems like some reviewers did not actually get the bed that was pictured. Some said the bed was too small and others said it was perfect for their large breed dogs. Kind of creates an analysis paralysis. Probably best to just got to brick and mortar stores and check check them out. I suppose I could also order it online and return it to a store if it does not work.
  2. We have a foster that we are in danger of failing to let go. If we keep her, we will need to get her a bolster bed, because she has this weird thing where she falls/rolls off her dog bed while in deep sleep, which startles everyone. In a way it's funny, but I doubt she's laughing when it happens. Where do you find the best bolster beds online?
  3. That really is terrifying. Thank God there was a happy ending to the story. Given how REALLY FREAKED OUT our foster is with the loud noises, I am just not comfortable walking her in the neighborhood w/o a harness. I am in touch with the woman who makes the majestic harnesses. Since we have had fosters that range in size, she said she could make us a spook harness that is between a S and M, so we are going in that direction. It will be comforting knowing we have it on hand in the future if we need it. In the meantime, we are walking Queen Latifah on the greenway, which is much lower stress for everyone. I did walk her in the neighborhood this morning, but it is a Saturday so less chance for a loud truck to pass us by. I did wonder what the hell I would do if a motorcycle sped past. I think we would be be traumatized if that were to occur.
  4. With the freedom harness, do you just hook the leash to the back (top) D ring? Did your pup take to walking ok in a harness, given the "feel" is different than being led via martingale?
  5. I have been using this method, but it is still quite scary. She becomes like a bucking bronco, trying to escape/run away. This morning's walk was the worse. It was trash pickup day. Know what's scarier than a yellow school bus? According to Queen, a big trash truck with a large claw that makes a lot of noise as it grabs the bins. I am going to either have to get a harness or start walking her on the nearby, traffic free, greenway. It is just so easy to walk out our front door and hit the road for a walk vs. heading to the greenway. I don't know what would be best practice with a foster ~ get a harness and try to acclimatize her to the scary noises, or avoid that altogether and just drive to the stress-free Greenway. I know if she were my dog, I would want her to overcome her fear of loud noises. I have noticed that she doesn't like like noises on the TV or even when we are in the back yard. She had a little panic yesterday when a loud van pulled in to the neighbors driveway. I wonder if she is gonna be one of the pup's who is noise phobic in general. As much as I would love some rain, I am glad there are no thunder storms in the forecast.
  6. Do you use just one of the D ring clips, or do you do a double clip for the leash? Wondering if I also need to buy the special double leash.
  7. Hello, our new foster does fine on her walks unless a loud truck or bus passes nearby. She then freaks out and I am afraid that despite my attempts to keep her restrained, she will end up backing out of her martingale. Does anyone have a recommendation for a harness that will keep her safe from the scary school buses on our walks?
  8. Thanks Bizeebee. It is strange duality . . . the wanting to succeed at being able to walk the whole journey with a dog, and the recognition that sometimes, that is not in the cards, through no fault of anyone. I posted another thread about the reality of fostering without a resident GH to help a new foster dog make the transition from track to pet. I hope to get input from others, mainly on the degree to which we should expect that a number of dogs will struggle to make it as a solo dog in a home where they are alone for a portion of the day. I do feel like we are doing a good deed in trying to get that figured out on the front end, for both the rescue dog and the prospective adopters. Just wondering, though, what we should expect by way of "fresh off the track dogs" ending up with SA vs not. Will we be looking at 50% who will have SA? 25%? 10%? 75%? Getting that question answered is what is front of mind right now. We are up for the challenge, regardless.
  9. Must the carrots be rehydrated, or will they do the job of firming up poops without going through that step?
  10. Hello all. Forgive the long post, please. We are back in the fostering routine and I would love some thoughts/input on our situation. We previously fostered a few times several years ago prior to our GH passing away. We never had any issues with the handful of dogs we fostered, only one of which was fresh off the tracks, and she adjusted well (the others were bounces). Fast forward, and it seems like it could be a different story now that we are a "2 working adults with no resident GH" foster home. Our first foster had to be moved after a week because she exhibited signs of SA and the coordinator wanted to try her in a home with another dog, which seems like was the right move for her. Because we both work, we could not do the TRUE alone training protocol, and she was panicking every day, peeing in the crate, attempting to escape the crate, etc. We are getting another GH foster this weekend, and our fingers are crossed that she will be ok in our home. We understand that dogs fresh off the tracks go through a radical change when they enter the world of being a pet. My question involves how many can successfully be ok in a home without another GH to ease the transition? Foster dogs in our home will have to be able to make it 5-6 hours alone in a crate. We do everything we can to assist them to be happy/calm, ie: alone training "lite", feed in crate, place a blanket over the top, play "Through a Dog's Ears" on repeat, walk 2 miles before being crated, leave a frozen PB Kong, minimize the drama when leaving and returning, etc. I plan to get a DAP diffuser to help as well. We know that there will likely be some whining and crying for awhile. I am not concerned about that. I am more concerned with the escalation to higher levels of distress. Suffering through SA seems cruel and potentially damaging to the dog's psyche as she leaves the track. The last thing we want is to harm a dog psychologically at a vulnerable time. One way that I am looking at this is to think of us as a foster home that can "test" whether a dog can more easily adjust to being an only pet for those adopters who don't have another pet and who work outside the home. This seems like a niche need that we could help address. The idea of having a string of dogs who cannot tolerate being alone while we are fostering them is daunting, though. It was tough to move her, and we felt like we had failed her in some way. I guess I am just looking for thoughts about how we should be thinking about this going forward. Thanks much!!
  11. Update: The foster coordinator decided to move the pup to a foster home with another GH after seeing the video I took of her, along with the daily crate soiling. She has been there 2 days and according to the new foster mom, she has done ok in the crate, which is in a room where their other GH stays during the day and in which she has her eyes on him all day. Apparently he is a pretty lazy boy and once down for the day, does not move She has had a few accidents in their house, which was never an issue with us. I chalk that up to everyone learning the new routine. It seems easier to work with housebreaking, especially since she has a history of success in that area, than to work with SA when there is no other dog around and both humans work, requiring the pup to be totally alone for up to 5-6 hours a day. We hate that we could not see her through to adoption, but also believe we have done her a service by allowing for the discovery that she must be adopted into a home with another dog in order for the transition to be smooth and increase the odds that the adoption succeeds.
  12. I got a video of her in the crate freaking out. I put her in there to eat breakfast while I showered this morning. She howled and was biting at the crate when I got out of the shower. She was only in there 20 minutes, and had just gone on a 2 mile walk. She peed in the crate in that short time period as well. This is the 6th day in a row of wetting the crate. I sent the video to my foster rep, and she confirmed SA. She is trying to find another foster home with another grey to see if that helps her. I feel terrible leaving her to go to work, because I know she is going to be distressed and trapped in a crate with wet bedding. I don't know what to do, though. I don't trust her to leave her out. She has shown interest in chewing on furniture, and even with the muzzle on, I fear she will be able to destruct or soil the house. We don't have a mudroom or such to gate her in. Our house is pretty open concept. I have a question about alone training. What is one to do when they MUST leave their dog, knowing the dog will be in the throws of SA? Doing full on alone training seems to require someone who can be with the dog all the time as the training is building up. Otherwise, each time the dog MUST be left alone and panics (to go to work, etc.), you are back to square one. As I see it, to successfully do alone training entails a) someone who can be home all the time with the dog while the training is occurring over time and/or b) has the financial resources to pay to put the pup in doggie day care throughout the course of the alone training. Am I missing something?
  13. We are new to fostering, though did have a VERY EASY greyhound for 9 years, who we lost last year to cancer. So using her as a basis of comparison is not going to be useful for us as we figure out the foster ropes. I am in frequent contact with my group's foster rep, and she is very helpful, receptive to my questions, and is providing lots of recommendations, but I am posting here just to get other's thoughts. We have had our foster girl a week today, and she is not quite two years old, somewhat timid (though is coming our of her shell), and is pretty well adjusted on many fronts. She eats like a champ, walks great on a leash, has tootsie roll poops, navigates hardwoods without a problem, sleeps through the night and has a sweet disposition. However, she also struggles to be in a room alone, follows us everywhere, and cries/borderline howls when she is left alone. We crate her when we leave, and for the past three days, she has peed in the crate. She has not been crated over 4.5 hours. Here is what we have tried: feeding in crate to develop a positive association, leaving a frozen kong with her, putting toys in the crate, withholding water an hour before crating, making sure she has plenty of opportunity to pee just prior to crating, tested for UTI (was negative), placing a blanket over the top of the crate, and leaving the radio on the classical station. Any thoughts on our protocols, what may be going on, etc.? We just want to do right by her and make sure we are thinking of everything that might be helpful. We want her to be as well adjusted as possible when she goes to her forever home so as to increase the chances that the adoption sticks. Thanks much!
  14. I feel so grateful for the ongoing conversations that take place here. That is exactly what it feels like ~ a conversation, albeit a written one. There really isn't any other place I can turn to in order to think through and process all of this. Friends are either A) the type of people who would NEVER give up on a dog, to the tune of turning their lives upside down, or not really dog people to begin with, so they don't see what all the fuss is about. It's really wonderful to have a space where I can "write through" all of this. And I agree 110%. We need time to decompress. From so many things. Ruby was the fat layer of icing on a stress cake that has been baking for 9 months. Although I do tend towards worry and anxiety, it has been in overdrive of late. I will know I am approaching readiness for another dog when my first thought is not "what is going to go wrong here"? I'm hoping some CBD will also help me along the way:) Thanks ya'll!
  15. Wow, Roo, that's quite a story. The fact that everything was fine for a month and then went downhill is alarming. Going through this experience with Ruby has left me grappling with so many different thoughts/concerns: 1. As stated previously, did we give up on her too soon? Really, there is no way to tell on this one, short of finding out how she does in the future. Even with this, the variables would have to be the same in order to know how she might have fared if we had hung in there with her ~ a one pet home with 2 adults who work odd hours and come and go in a way that makes routine challenging. I was told that she did fine being created with the foster's dog being crated right beside her when he stepped out for a bit. I was so happy to hear that, for her sake. When I read about the need to be patient and to give it time for a new dog fresh off the track to settle in, I start to second guess myself. But then I read the stories, such as yours, of dogs with true SA who struggle to get beyond it, I feel like we made the right decision, given the unknown nature of what the future might have held, but man is it easy to second guess that. 2. I hope this gets better in time, but I am stuck worrying about what the future holds regarding us having a pet down the line. I suppose we have been really fortunate with our previous pets' ability to adapt to our lifestyle. I want to believe that it will be possible again to find that dog who is the right fit for us. I know we would give her a great life. But I now worry that the "unknown" of a new dog might conceal issues that we could not anticipate. Of course, this is ALWAYS a possibility. We had just not had to consider that before having Ruby, and now that we have experienced it, it's front and center. 3. When I think about the kind of pet we want, GH's still are at the top of the list. However, we are concerned about the future of adopting retired racers given all the changes in the racing industry. The idea that there will always be a steady supply of RR's that need homes is not something that I feel like we can bank on. In fact, I had a convo with a GPA adoption rep who basically said that the days of a steady stream of retired racers needing adoption are coming to an end. I don't want to get into the politics of this, but I can say that it is one of the reasons we so quickly moved to adopt Ruby after losing our Rosie. In retrospect, that was a mistake. 4. Just how common (or uncommon) is it to bring a GH into ones home and have her/him settle in without much fanfare? I am up for what I consider the routine transitions, such as learning how to walk on hardwoods, getting into a routine around eating, walks, sleeping, learning how to "play", getting comfortable and eventually bonding with each other, learning how to walk on a leash, etc. I am even up for the more challenging issues like overcoming tenacious hookworms, dealing with bad teeth, the saga of finding the right food, etc. It's the more extreme things, like a dog that can't be left alone for fear of self or home destruction, or a dog that is spooked easily, or one who struggles with housebreaking, or one who ends up having a much higher prey drive than originally thought . . . those are the things that I now am concerned about. I wonder what the proportion of "issues" vs. "non-issues" really is. I know there is no easy way to answer this question, but as a thought experiment, I do wonder . . . 5. It sucks to one the one hand know that we would provide a great life to the right dog and on the other, to realize that we have limitations that make it such that a not-right dog just won't work. I guess it is just hard to own about oneself that we are not the kind of people who can adapt to most anything a pet might present.
  16. In talking it over, we think an older pup would probably be a better fit when the time is right. When we were younger, I think a younger dog would have been more manageable. And we had also talked about a bounced dog perhaps being a good option. We babysat a wonderful girl, Millie, for several years. She was a delight. Her owners had a baby who was allergic to animals, so they had to surrender Millie. We fostered her until the right home was found. We are kicking ourselves now for not just keeping her. If a crystal ball existed, we would have kept her. But as it was, we were (and still are) in a smaller home, and while we find we can accommodate two dogs for a short period of time, it would be close quarters if we had two permanently. In all honesty, I would be up for two, but my partner is not on board with that, and I want to be respectful of her limits. I semi lobbied for trying out another dog to help with Ruby's adjustment, but I could tell I was not going to get far with that, so didn't push it. So yes, older and/or perhaps a bounce would make for a good fit for us. We also think the option of fostering is a good way to go, in oder to get a "feel" for potentials . . . one day. Again, I want to thank everyone for their interest, input, and empathy. This is a great group of folks.
  17. So, its been 48 hours, and all in all, we are doing ok. The burden of not obsessively worrying about how things will go when we leave for work this week is like a ton of bricks lifted from our shoulders. Am I still sad, yes. Do I still flagellate myself with guilt? Not as much. I think anytime something like this happens, there is bound to be so many conflicting emotions. So, we are just riding the waves as they come and go, and trusting that in time, the right dog WILL find her way to us, as many of you have suggested. As far as having a better sense of the kind of dog that will fit our lifestyle, we are now very clear that whatever dog comes into our lives, from the beginning, she will need to be secure enough to be alone. In addition, we also realize that a dog on the petite and calm side is also going to be a must. We called Rosie our "cat dog". She was 52 pounds and 2 years old when we got her, and although she was playful, her play was never really overwhelming. Ruby was 62 pounds of pure muscle and energy, and also 2 years old. She got to where she would jump on us if she was excited. I imagine in time we could work to extinguish that, but in the interim, it could be scary. She greeted me at the top of a 10 step landing by jumping on me and nearly knocked me backwards recently. Although not elderly, we are solidly middle-aged and are a lot more careful physically than we used to be, back when we were invincible youth. So, that is also something to consider when bringing a new dog in as well. On the topic of vetting dogs, to what extent to adoption groups allow adoptees to be specific with their wishes? I have to say, our local group conveyed that the new reality, with track's closing and the adoption pool shrinking, is that the likelihood of specifying certain traits in a dog is dwindling. I felt as though it was not ok to have specific criteria with them. It is one of the reasons we went with a group a few hours outside our area. I am so glad we did, too. They were so understanding and told me they would not hesitate to work with us again in the future. Once we are back in the saddle, I may post a thread on this, but just out of curiosity, what experiences have folks had with being quite specific in their requests when adopting?
  18. Well, we are about to load up to hit the road for the two-hour drive to meet the adoption rep. We took Ruby on a long walk this morning and she had a fun game of busy ball. I have cried buckets of tears this week, and just when I think I am about to dry up, they start flowing again. The second-guessing is torture. This is even harder than when we had to put our Rosie down. With that situation, there was no hope of a good outcome. With Ruby, it is different. Maybe she could/would eventually come around. But when I think about the uncertainty and the road to get there, I then know we are making the right decision. The only way the past two months have even been possible is because my partner and I are on opposite schedules so that there have only been short overlaps of time on most days that she has had to be alone. My partner's mom is elderly and lives 2 hours away, and she could take a turn at any given moment. I think about how I would possibly be able to handle all of Ruby's needs on my own if K had to tend to her mom and be gone for long stretches, as has happened at several points in the past few years. There is no way I could do it. So, again, deep in my heart, I know this is the right thing for all of us. It just sucks so damn bad . . . The thought of returning to a home that is so quiet and devoid of the special and unique energy that a pet brings is gut-wrenching. But part of our path ahead is to fully feel and move through that pain and grief. Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers. And keep Ruby in those, too. I actually am fully confident that she will end up in a good situation for her. I think she is quite resilient. I just hate that we are all going through this.
  19. Thanks for those kind words. They do help. Re: the Paxil, she was only on it for a week, so too early to say anything about efficacy. The fact that she seemed to "amp back up" with the SA behaviours when she seemed to be doing a bit better has me wondering if introducing it may have caused a period of heightened stress as she gets used to it in her system. I was in touch with the adoption group all along about the SA, so this is not a surprise to them, and they plan to keep her on the treatment protocol as they work re-home her. She is such a wonderful dog in so many ways; once the right scenario presents itself for Ruby, those will be some lucky folks. She has BIG personality. I would describe her as a tomboy toddler crossed with a graceful WNBA player. She has no fear of anything except being by herself. She does not have a "spook" temperament. She is affectionate and playful. And she is beyond gorgeous. We call her the supermodel. She was in foster care between track (she only raced 8 times) and us adopting her for two weeks. The foster parents were retirees with other dogs, so she was never really ever left alone until she came to us. When we brought her home, she came in like she owned the place. We got her on a Sunday and had to go to work on Monday. The Thursday of that week is when it all took a turn and she started hating the crate and struggling when being left alone. I know that 8 weeks is not a long time when it comes to transitions. Again, another reason why we are second guessing ourselves. But in the end, we just know that we don't have it in us to go through the long and arduous process of adjusting her to being alone. I just read a thread from a man who took 7 weeks to build up to being able to leave his pup alone for 10 minutes. God bless those that have the patience, mental/emotional resources, and lifestyle to offer that kind opportunity and support for a dog who struggles with SA.
  20. It is with the most broken of hearts that I am sharing that we are returning Ruby tomorrow to the adoption group. It has been a gut-wrenching decision, and I have second guessed myself a thousand times, wondering if we are giving up on her too soon. She had a major regression last weekend. The pacing, howling, etc. had returned, and she also started jumping on the kitchen (our exit) door, which was a new behaviour for her. On Monday, when I went to work, I watched her on the spycam. She howled and paced for 30 minutes, and then I heard the most awful noise, which sounded like she was throwing herself at the door. I couldn't actually see what was happening but assumed that was what was going on. She did finally settle down and fall asleep at about 45 minutes in. I had given her the 150 mg of Traz about 90 minutes prior to departure and was shocked that the anxiety had broken through this high of a dose. When I arrived home, the blinds were mangled and the wooden door was all scratched up. I can't believe she did not break through the glass panes in the door. I am so glad we did not come home to a blood bath. I was a total wreck, and after talking it over with my partner that night, we both agreed that she would likely be better in a home that at a minimum had another dog or perhaps with someone who did not come and go as frequently as we do. We are rarely gone for longer than 5 hours at a time, but we do come and go a lot, between work and all the other activities of life. If we were to keep her and continue on with the process of helping her overcome her SA, we would be worried that she would harm herself or destroy our house in the process. Not to mention the emotional toll that it has taken on me to be so worried about her every time we leave. I found myself obsessively watching her on the spy cam, holding my breath, hoping that the signs of SA would not appear. It had gotten to the point that I could not focus at work, was eating Klonopin just to deal with my own anxiety, and I literally could not think about anything else except Ruby and how she was doing. Not only am I dealing with a shattered heart, but I am also full of guilt and remorse that we do not have the resilience or fortitude to deal with this and provide her with what she needs. Our previous grey was just an ideal dog for us, and in all honesty, we need a dog that can come into our lives and be secure from the get-go. We are just not equipped to deal with special needs. I feel horrible saying that, but it is the truth. We lost our previous grey to acute and aggressive hemangiosarcoma last Thanksgiving. Between the hole in our heart from losing her, and now this on top of it, we are going to take a good long time before we entertain having another dog. We need time to heal from both losses. We do know that we are dog people and that one day, the right dog will find its way into our lives. Likely we would like to foster grey's in the future, with the intention to adopt one that is a good fit for us, and us to her. I don't know when that will be, but I trust that day will come. We have fostered in the past (3 different grey's) and babysat numerous grey's, so we know this breed is for us. We just are not equipped to give a special needs dog what she deserves. I have been so torn about posting this here. On the one hand, I really long for words of support and encouragement. On the other, I have feared a backlash from those who might righteously judge us. Given how emotionally wrecked I am feeling, I have opted until now to share this news. I am taking the risk to just be very honest about our struggle and where we so, so sadly have ended up. We got the below email from our dog trainer (who has worked in a greyhound prison program), who was working with us on overcoming the SA. It has helped tremedously. If others find their way to this thread and are struggling with a similar dilemma, maybe these words can be a balm to them as well: "I am so sorry it has come to this point. I know it will take a while for you to truly hear this, so come back to this email as much as you need until you believe this: you are not a failure. Dogs with Separation Anxiety are the hardest dogs to live with. I certainly couldn't do it. I don't have the lifestyle nor the emotional bandwidth to work through it the way a dog would need. Having a dog with SA is emotionally draining and if you don't have a specific life style or a lot of money to throw at the problem, and even if both conditions are true, it can be a painful and impossible disorder to live with in your home. You are absolutely, positively, 100% making the right decision here. I know that doesn't make this any less painful for you. I am truly sorry that you are going through this. Ruby will find the right home and when you are ready you will find the right dog."
  21. Hi Lolo, I can't share any specific advice, but what I can share is empathy. We adopted a 2 year old girl 7 weeks ago who is hookwrm positive and has separation distress. She is about to send me over the edge. When she is calm and appears secure, I am calm. When she is pacing, whining, jumping on the door when we leave, or when she is CONSTANTLY shadowing us, or when we have another expense that pops us related to her care, my anxiety starts to climb. We had a greyhound prior to her, and she was a dream dog. This one is VERY DIFFERENT, and it has activated my own anxiety which was just starting to settle down after a 6 month period of prolonged heightened anxiety. I keep telling myself that this is all part of the adjustment period, that she is still somewhat of a puppy, and that time, training and medication will help. Please know that there you are not alone. Not that this solves your current concerns, but hopefully it helps in some small way. I don't want to totally hijack your thread, but after reading yours, as well as another recent thread from a new adopter who is struggling, I may post one too, looking for support, advice and empathy, myself. Hang in there . . . anxiety SUCKS!
  22. Good tip, Bizeebee. I will check out the fb group. And point taken re: varibility of infestation amongst dogs.
  23. Has anyone had success with Dr. Jennifer Ng's slightly altered version of the prison protocol? She does NOT dose with Advantage multi every two weeks. Instead, she keeps with the regual motnhly dosing of Advantage Multi, and doses with Drontal Plus or Panacur at only at mid month. Here is what she recommends. If I am reading this correctly, it is essentially half of the medication that is being administered in a month as compared to the Prison Protocol. Treatment After trying various combinations of dewormers and protocols over the past 2-3 years, I have had good results with using monthly Advantage Multi, along with a standard dewormer given in the middle of the month between doses of Advantage Multi. For the standard dewormer, I usually use Drontal Plus (or compounded equivalent), or a 5-day course of Panacur (fenbendazole) with a dose of pyrantel pamoate given on the last day. I add the pyrantel for added effect because it works synergistically with fenbendazole. For dogs that are asymptomatic for the hookworms, I will often just treat with monthly Advantage Multi and only add another dewormer if the dog develops diarrhea or other GI signs. Even with an effective protocol, because of larval leak, it can take 6-8 months or more before the hookworm infestation can be fully eliminated. Often, even getting one or two negative fecal flotation results doesn't mean the dog is clear. I usually recommend continuing monthly Advantage Multi until a minimum of 2-3 negative results on fecals done several weeks apart. The IDEXX fecal antigen test may be more accurate, but it would still be prudent to continue Advantage Multi for a few more months past a negative result. **A note on a couple other hookworm treatment protocols that have been shared and discussed on various groups. I would not recommend using Advantage Multi every 2 weeks as described in what is called the “prison protocol”. With monthly administration of Advantage Multi, the active ingredient of moxidectin reaches steady state in the bloodstream after the 3rd dose. Steady state means that there is an effective level of the medication in the blood constantly, so it provides continuous deworming activity, and there is no need to administer it more frequently. Using Advantage Multi every 2 weeks, especially for an extended period of time, will result in blood levels of moxidectin that are significantly higher than what has been proven to be safe in the product approval studies.
  24. Greenies are so ubiquitous. Anyone use/have an opinion on them?
  25. Any recommendations on dental treats? Our recently adopted 2-year-old girl has pristine teeth. We know that this can change, and dramatically so. Our last grey had to have every tooth in the head removed, and we want to be proactive to avoid that fate for Ruby, if at all possible. Our vet gave us a sample called Oravet Dental Hygiene Chews and suggested giving them to her once or twice a week. Besides brushing her teeth, what treats do you use to help your grey with dental hygiene?
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