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shouldn't need any except fish oil Some are sensitive to chicken or turkey (mine are not). I mostly feed that but Passion really only likes beef. I just ordered 50 lbs of beef to pick up on Monday. I've read to avoid- chicken backs, chicken necks, turkey necks, pork necks, weight baring bones from large animals. Here's some newbie info: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/message/184829 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/message/187497

I don't feed fish but do give a fish oil pill every meal.

I do give RMB (meaty bones) every day. Like I posted above, I throw everything into a zip lock bag for the days feeding and just dump some out in the morning. It takes Thunder longer to eat a pork neck bone so I would give those at night and just ground in the morning since I don't have forever to wait for him to eat. These are the groups that I joined: https://www.facebook.com/groups/225320047573140/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/rawfeedingcarnivores/ http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/MidwestHealthyDog/?yguid=78081008 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/CarnivoreFeed-Supplier/?yguid=78081008 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/RawChat/?yguid=78081008

You could but you might be getting too much bone-hard to know but you will be able to tell from their poop if they are getting too much bone or not. It's better for their teeth to give hunks of meat.

I think I was most excited about their poops. So easy to clean up now or just leave since it doesn't smell.

I did a lot of research before starting. It's suggested you start with 1 protein for a week, then add another. Wait a while to add organ and I just read today that you don't need to give organ every day. I started with chicken

I get meat for .55 lb for gr meat with bone. Chicken qtrs are .99 lb but I saw them for .55 lb at another butcher. I feed about 2 lbs a day. I just weigh everything, throw a days worth in a bag and freeze it. Then take out a bag the day before to thaw. Lucky won't eat it unless it's thawed out. Thunder will eat it frozen. This is what I feed in oz about every other day Chick back 18.72 oz Grnd Trky 10.08 oz Liver 1.44 oz Pork Neck 18.72 oz Grnd Beef 10.08 oz Kidney 1.44 oz

Daily brushing Plaque-off Petzlife Pork neck bones (Lucky is fed raw so gets bones daily)

Sparks and Passion both have gone.

I thaw out 50 lbs of meat at a time and refreeze all the time.

Thunder is on the XR from Costco. It was about $300 for 3 months. Check goodrx.com/pets I am going to switch where I get his from.

Did you already order? Check goodrx.com first for prices.

Yes- you can refreeze. Just an fyi- chicken backs have too much bone, not enough meat. Make sure you are giving more meat or you will have a constipated pup. Most raw feeders don't recommend feeding backs.

Thaw them out and refreeze I get them in 6 lbs blocks

My vet just calls it in for me. I tell them where to call, give them the # too.

If you do switch drugs, try this site for prices. Totally saved me tons of money on drugs goodrx.com

Welcome I also adopted from MSGAO, back in 2003, I think. Are you on their FB page?

Yeah, mine don't care about running either and I do have a fenced yard

Mine don't like them or antlers

You can use DE (food grade only) in the yard and in the house. You can also sprinkle in on him as well. I had a foster with fleas 2 summers ago. Took me months to get rid of the damn things. http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/defaq.html I don't think it's recommended to use Adam's if you already put something else on them.

And he's gained 5 lbs

Lucky had a mass on his spleen removed in Dec. There is a chance it will come back so I had blood work done yesterday. It was perfect!! I'm so happy. Recheck in another 6 months. He's roaching every night now (hasn't done that since before the surgery). Here is he loving up on a friend at a party last Saturday

Brushing teeth is the best thing to do. Some greys have good teeth and some don't. I brush twice a day, use plaqueoff and give meaty bones and Lucky's teeth are horrible.

I get it at Drs Foster & Smith as well. I need to start getting her phenobarb at Costco but haven't changed the script yet.

Passion gets Soloxine