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Thanks for the update. Busy is good. More prayers for Cosmo.

Me too.

The insecticide in a flea collar is not compatible with a greyhound metabolism. It can make a grey very sick, even cause death-depending on the flea killer in the collar. Preventic collars are fine for greyhounds. We use and carry them as I live in tick central.

How awful! I am so sorry. Many many prayers for you and Gracie. Come on Gracie girl, get better!

Thinking of you and Cosmo (and Jason)

More good thoughts and prayers coming, and I'll take the sparrow as a good omen too. They are supposed to bring good luck.

I'm so sorry.

Poor Lucy is a drooling mess. I'm sure it will be better, and yes it was an epulis according to the vet. It looks like she will have 1 more dental where they remove the remainders, but hopefully awhile from now. We will have to see how the canines do. I guess I am relieved to know it isn't just normal rotten greyhound mouth, and I'm not totally crazy. I feel really bad about the sores and that I didn't find someone who could help her sooner. Poor girl gets to be brushed and brushed and brushed.... Lucy says thanks to everybody who was thinking about her.

I would be livid! I hope sweet Emmy heals quick.

Lucy is up and alert after her dental. The vet removed 9 more teeth, and left her canines. Lucy also had the bonus of them finding a growth behind her very back molars and they took that out too. We are going to discuss that when I pick her up, but the vet described it as an old dog thing that sometimes happens and told me not to freak out. Should have biopsy results in a couple of days and I can pick her up after 3.

That's it! That is exactly what her mouth looks like only worse. So out of the 5 vets I have been to here, this is the first one to give me a diagnosis. The morning office staff leaves something to be desired, but the vets seem to work well together, and they have runners for the dogs who don't like shiny floors. Thank you for finding that link.

I'm so glad he is coming home. Both of you will rest and be more comfortable. More prayers that he continues to improve and heal quickly.

Lucy is in for her dental...she was KNOT happy about me leaving her there but was a good sport about it. She kept trying to hide behind my legs and be invisible and you could feel her willing the doors to open for an escape. Anyway, her gums look much better after several days of antibiotics, but the vet pointed out ulcers on the cheek flaps and gave me a diagnosis for Lucy. I can't remember the medical term...but she called it cups I think. Canine Ulcerative something something and said it does tend to happen with greyhounds more and promised reading material for me. SHe also wants to discuss a low dose of doxycycline as an anti-inflamatory as it may not go away with tooth extraction. I've never heard of this, but I may have mis-heard. It was a late night and a very early morning. I know I need to ask if the ulcers and kidney values have any link...so I better get my list together for later. Think good thoughts for Miss Lucyfur please.

Is it far enough down that you can tell if it is in the lip or gum, or is it higher up? When you palpitate it is is squishy or uncomfortable for her? I'm voting vet check if she isn't playing chipmunk and hiding a snack for later...

From what I understand, there aren't any dental specialists in the area. I'm actually running out of vets to try too. It is hard to know what to do, as she does eat all of her kibble-but I put hot water on it and she doesn't chew it. Her weight is good, she still plays if she thinks we aren't watching. Her vision isn't great since she had a stroke or TIA or whatever it was. After pulling up more old posts on kidney values-I'm going to go the route of re-test after the dental. I just listened to the vet's message again in that her kidney values were slightly elevated and they would use lots of fluids to protect her kidneys during the dental. I can talk to her more about it on thursday when I bring Lucy in. Thursday is looking fun.... . Why would you fight for the canines? For tongue containment properties, recovery from extraction or is there another need I haven't found? The vet had mentioned he was concerned about one of the canines since she has major erosion around the gums there. Gaaaaaaah!!!! I'm so glad I'm with friends...

Lucy turned 12 in Dec, but Diesel's teeth are perfect for a 12 year old which is what befuddles me since they are sibs. Dental is scheduled for Thursday (they moved her to a slower day so they could do a really good job) and put her on a months worth of clindamiacin BEFORE we even start the dental. Plus they had runners in the office so I'm trying not to get my hopes up too high.

I'm gonna ramble with Lucy's dental saga...it's mostly for me, since I'm frustrated and anxious. I haven't found a really great vet yet. I thought the last one would be good, as my friend works there as a tech-but she doesn't work for the vet we have seen. I talked to them when I brought Lucy in about her dental issues, that in mere weeks after having a dental she looks like she needs another. The response I got was, well if this one doesn't work we can just pull the rest. Not exactly the response I was looking for. I'm sure this guy is a great vet, but he's just not OUR great vet. Lucy had 2 dentals last year-one in the beginning of the year and the second in October. (Plus another in feb this year)She has always had receeding gums and very worn discolored teeth (I assume crate chewing) but the good dental gal has always said her roots are solid-packed her gums with doxirobe and sent her on her way. She has never needed a second dental in a year when we were at that clinic. I cannot, ever ever ever ever go back to that clinic though. Anyway, fast forward-Lucy is about to have her 5th dental in approx 2 years. The vet we saw yesterday was horrified when I told him he last dental was the end of Feb, and when I had asked them for a second round of antibiotics-they had me bring her in-took her temp and told me I just needed to brush more and use the chlorahexadine rinse more. I swear her gums bleed if you look at them, and her breath can stop birds in mid-flight. She doesn't have a tarter issue, it is her red swollen gums that have receeded above the root line now-so she will have to have a few more removed for sure. Lucy's fine without teeth, she has long since gotten over the embarresment of having her tongue stuck to the floor after a long hard sleep and honestly would prefer canned food as it is tastier and more fun to push around the bowl with her nose and works way better for snout art on the patio door and couch. The only time she complains is when I am brushing her teeth (actually when DS brushes her teeth). We use enzymatic toothpaste, dentatreat, chlorahexadrine rinses, chews ect. I even rinse her mouth out with a spray bottle after meals and recently started adding vitamin c to her diet. I do think this has helped her gums some, and honestly her mouth looks better if I don't brush the gunk out. Even if we use guaze, her mouth still bleeds though. So, I guess my questions are..... Anyone ever gone through this with their greys? I know they have bad teeth, but even the vet said this isn't normal. Do you just pull them all? Is it possible all of the brushing did this? I soak the toothbrushes in hydrogen peroxide after using them, and then let them dry so they don't habor bacteria. I have been afraid with her mouth so rotten that all I am doing is pushing more up under her gum line. Is it possible this is from a bad dental? Bacteria pushed under the gumline and it has just gotten worse? Should I even try to save her teeth? The vet said most of the ones that are left-the roots seem solid-but there are some that the gumline is pulled back from or ulcered and those will have to come out. And then I guess my final questions are about BUN values. I had them run a blood panel, and she always has an elevated BUN. I didn't get the values this time and only got the voice mail, but I'll pull her records when I get home and fax those over tomorrow. I'm just not sure what to ask the vet about it. She mentioned lots of fluid while under anesthesia, but also mentioned checking the protien level of her food. Lucy isn't on a really high protien food, 25% which I think is average but could be wrong. What are normal greyhound values for kidneys? What level would you be concerned for a senior dog, and want to do a food change? She has had the kidney values elevated before, and was eating a different food. I'll have to check the protien values of those foods-but last blood panel she was on the same food and supposedly the values were normal. Thoughts, ideas, any suggestions? If you made it this far, I appreciate it.

I am so sorry.

Moms know when things are off. I'm crossing everything that he gets back to normal for him and you.

Many many prayers for your sweet girl.

Prayers that it is nothing. Poor Zali, I don't blame her screaming when she got her temp taken.

You can try Wysong's Dentatreat. It might help. It did help in the beginning with Lucy's mouth and still help's with Diesel's. You can sprinkle it on their food, or just let them lick it out of their bowl after they eat. I think this helps because it has longer contact on their teeth if you feed after they eat. I brush Diesel's teeth with it.

I am so sorry.

and maybe some for Roy so Mary Jo doesn't strangle him when he forgets to ask the questions on the list.